<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">73 is still almost 30 degrees under the thermal shutdown. so that is relatively safe.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:50 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">there is a fan on it and it maxes at 73 with the blue kitty in glmark2<br>
but usually stays below 68<br>
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss<br>
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<<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hows the temperature of your video card? Does it have a fan on it?<br>
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> Brian<br>
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> On 7/16/20 1:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
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> Might the problem still be the he<br>
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> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> 68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse<br>
>>> and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like<br>
>>> 68. I don't think that is too bad.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Brian Cluff<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
>>> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss<br>
>>> > > <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > >> Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard<br>
>>> > >> systems freeze on me because my hard drive was dying that then appear to<br>
>>> > >> work again for a while after a reboot. Basically your drive starts<br>
>>> > >> throwing errors and eventually the system remounts it as read only and<br>
>>> > >> your system eventually freaks out and freezes because it can't write to<br>
>>> > >> the drive anymore.<br>
>>> > > I sure hope this is the problem. It'll give me an excuse to put an ssd<br>
>>> > > in the machine.<br>
>>> > > This is from live media boot. I'll see if I can freeze the system<br>
>>> > > again.... it did when I tried it before but it hasn't frozen for a<br>
>>> > > couple of days now.<br>
>>> > > sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda<br>
>>> > > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-26-generic] (local build)<br>
>>> > > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, <a href="http://www.smartmontools.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.smartmontools.org</a><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===<br>
>>> > > Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Blue (SATA)<br>
>>> > > Device Model: WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0<br>
>>> > > Serial Number: WD-WMAV2S110171<br>
>>> > > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 057775228<br>
>>> > > Firmware Version: 02.03E02<br>
>>> > > User Capacity: 320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB]<br>
>>> > > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical<br>
>>> > > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]<br>
>>> > > ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)<br>
>>> > > SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s<br>
>>> > > Local Time is: Thu Jul 16 18:33:20 2020 UTC<br>
>>> > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.<br>
>>> > > SMART support is: Enabled<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===<br>
>>> > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > General SMART Values:<br>
>>> > > Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity<br>
>>> > > was suspended by an interrupting command from host.<br>
>>> > > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.<br>
>>> > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test<br>
>>> > > routine completed<br>
>>> > > without error or no self-test has ever<br>
>>> > > been run.<br>
>>> > > Total time to complete Offline<br>
>>> > > data collection: ( 6000) seconds.<br>
>>> > > Offline data collection<br>
>>> > > capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.<br>
>>> > > Auto Offline data collection on/off support.<br>
>>> > > Suspend Offline collection upon new<br>
>>> > > command.<br>
>>> > > Offline surface scan supported.<br>
>>> > > Self-test supported.<br>
>>> > > Conveyance Self-test supported.<br>
>>> > > Selective Self-test supported.<br>
>>> > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering<br>
>>> > > power-saving mode.<br>
>>> > > Supports SMART auto save timer.<br>
>>> > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.<br>
>>> > > General Purpose Logging supported.<br>
>>> > > Short self-test routine<br>
>>> > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.<br>
>>> > > Extended self-test routine<br>
>>> > > recommended polling time: ( 73) minutes.<br>
>>> > > Conveyance self-test routine<br>
>>> > > recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.<br>
>>> > > SCT capabilities: (0x3037) SCT Status supported.<br>
>>> > > SCT Feature Control supported.<br>
>>> > > SCT Data Table supported.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16<br>
>>> > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:<br>
>>> > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE<br>
>>> > > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE<br>
>>> > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 138 133 021 Pre-fail<br>
>>> > > Always - 4075<br>
>>> > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 089 089 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 11090<br>
>>> > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 019 019 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 59593<br>
>>> > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 2282<br>
>>> > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 1044<br>
>>> > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 197 197 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 11090<br>
>>> > > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 105 080 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 38<br>
>>> > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Offline - 0<br>
>>> > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 0<br>
>>> > > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Offline - 0<br>
>>> > > 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0032 024 024 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 55990<br>
>>> > > 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 78243499218<br>
>>> > > 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age<br>
>>> > > Always - 174621575474<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > SMART Error Log Version: 1<br>
>>> > > No Errors Logged<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1<br>
>>> > > Num Test_Description Status Remaining<br>
>>> > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error<br>
>>> > > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 14352 -<br>
>>> > > # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1<br>
>>> > > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS<br>
>>> > > 1 0 0 Not_testing<br>
>>> > > 2 0 0 Not_testing<br>
>>> > > 3 0 0 Not_testing<br>
>>> > > 4 0 0 Not_testing<br>
>>> > > 5 0 0 Not_testing<br>
>>> > > Selective self-test flags (0x0):<br>
>>> > > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.<br>
>>> > > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Well, I am running glmark2, watch, and stress-ng for about (one round<br>
>>> > > of glmark2) with no freeze. all from live media<br>
>>> > > --<br>
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