<div dir="ltr"><div>How's the video sharing and remote control capabilities? That is always the issue with linux involved.</div><div><br></div><div>Teams, UberConf both don't allow remote control, so they're only half-functional imho. Even sharing alone, both were also bad about letting me share one of my 3 displays at a time, only allowing the full 3x display, or a single application at a time. Zoom and WebEx allow me to show each display individually. It's like a feature they don't know exists, but is damn relevant when you have 2-3 displays going at a time.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I use hangouts still for my sms as my main number *is* gvoice still, but hangouts, duo, etc have never been too usable, or at least everyone else just went back to the facebook/instagram/whatsapp cartel, or use their work's service ala zoom/webex/etc. I don't care about or use video (no one wants to see me), I just need desktop sharing and remote control to get their stuff working.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">We have been using the crap out of it at work, and it does a good job, simple with minimal extras, but sometimes that's what you need.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, giving free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably should try to see the capabilities.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/" target="_blank">https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/</a></div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash <<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco anymore.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a security audit.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally.<br></div><div><br></div><div>M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control. Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft, thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software.<br></div><div><br></div><div>GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no one seems to use them anymore.</div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?<br>
<br>
Mac<br>
<br>
<span>der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM:</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite">Am 28. Apr, 2020
schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
<br>
<br>
moin moin,
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">That's not entirely true, I use Webex on
Linux, including sharing my screen,
<br></blockquote>
<br>
Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript,
<br>
but no completely 3rd party stuff.
<br>
<br>
I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex
join
<br>
meeting UI sucks pretty badly.
<br>
<br>
ciao,
<br>
<br>
der.hans
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">nearly every day for work. It is true that
there's no native client, though,
but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in my
case,
Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing
functionality
of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is that you
must
use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support screen
capture
on Wayland.
<br>
<br>
<br>On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
<br><blockquote type="cite">Webex still does not have a Linux client
(not even via web), so it is
<br>a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a
<br>phone. So still using Zoom.
<br>Phil W
<br>
<br>On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss
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<br><blockquote type="cite">moin moin,
<br>
<br>I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button
<br>(
<br>hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using
<br>a
<br>variety of tools that others get to choose for us.
<br>
<br>Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still
<br>learning how to safely display images.
<br>
<br>Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone.
<br>
<br><a href="https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/" target="_blank">https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/</a>
<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><a href="https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/" target="_blank">https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/</a>
<br><blockquote type="cite">
<br>Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the
<br>recurring zoom issues.
<br>
<br>ciao,
<br>
<br>der.hans
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