<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">they Make 18T spinning Drives now. 10T drives are about 300ish from what I am seeing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">They have 4T SSDs int eh consumer space.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:17 PM David Schwartz <<a href="mailto:newsletters@thetoolwiz.com">newsletters@thetoolwiz.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Not sure what you’re even talking about here.<div><br></div><div>120GB SSDs are under $20 almost everywhere, including Best Buy.</div><div><br></div><div>And 64gB Class 10 SD cards are under $10, which are still likely to be way faster than your old “dinosaur” can saturate.</div><div><br></div><div>Never mind that you can easily run a full-blown Linux distro from a 1 GB SD flash that will last at least as long as a spinning HDD. And with 8GB of RAM, it’ll be running almost entirely out of RAM and will thus run extremely fast b/c it won’t be reading from the “disk” hardly at all.</div><div><br></div><div>We’re not talking MEGA-BYTES here, we’re talking GIGA-BYTES. An entire Linux distro is like around 100 MEGS or so without all of the UI bloat?<br><div><br></div><div>The way you’re calculating what you think is risk means you should probably go back to storing your data on paper tape.</div><div><br></div><div>Here’s something I found that talks about SSD lifetime ratings:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://u2206659.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=3cK2FVJjyu2N-2Bxco034fZrF0HdtK4hjbBBfbBSvju7yHokerjHU-2FmnzNGJxjKSrrcmlPfTmtniYIXjiafXbf3j65oBd4rrwVBRTYox6qQEIqeHpPPbtY2a90WOTJUTCx_6lpMB7VLnN-2Fj9-2FEErg8-2F-2BMBpb5QxlByTgv2M3fbWD9ebvC-2BWrN3h7jImK8EVWYBelRwk0vzJQvHL4s80cIorBpNckDLNYJpqFSI-2Fq2tCXQh4RUlzNyiLF9QZjv9dMbLroIyPQCQGMLIMKzVvH8BTS8ivZdl5Js1Ci-2FWaxfSHTa8ndKj1-2FUi86r89GZNgSLY7YvzmaiWu8KoSHnDLv-2BvScn40jQbO4Zf7LF44nRnz4vw-3D" target="_blank">https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/ssd-lifespan.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>This whole thread really makes very little sense to me. Data centers (including CDNs) have been migrating to 100% SSDs on their servers for several years now because they have a longer MTBF / GB stored, they’re WAY faster, they take less power and generate far less heat.</div><div><br></div><div>You seem to forget … tape backup units are quite cheap and plentiful these days in case you want to save all that precious data for the inevitable “disk crash” in a few years.</div><div><br></div><div>And if you’ve only got 10GB of stuff saved, then heck, just buy a handful of 32GB SDs ($4/ea) and you’ll have more backup storage than you’d ever need.</div><div><br></div><div>SDs are the new Floppy disks for backup storage.</div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:27 PM, Jim <<a href="mailto:azanorak@gmail.com" target="_blank">azanorak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div><br>On 12/1/19 2:57 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I should add, that you can run a hybrid setup where you run your system on the SSD and put your home directory on an spinning drive. That's actually how I have most of my systems setup as I use a HUGE amount of space. That way all the stuff that needs to be fast is and the stuff that just needs to be stored is on the cheaper spinning disks.<br></blockquote><br>This is what I do because I can't afford 10 GB of SSDs for the video and music I have stored on this dinosaur. It's my home entertainment center. Whenever I get a music or video disc, it gets copied to spinning rust. This saves my optical discs free from normal wear and tear.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><img src="https://u2206659.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/open?upn=6lpMB7VLnN-2Fj9-2FEErg8-2F-2BMBpb5QxlByTgv2M3fbWD9ebvC-2BWrN3h7jImK8EVWYBelRwk0vzJQvHL4s80cIorBgl4rMbZvzE81Jz6hVE3DLqStjS5yT9aLUNsdMOOdjhVtujUUlDodBM4A1F4YlGi5-2Buvee3CCdGYB0MCghPmmi-2FOBqJ7M6s4058JilzZCfpvqybtQ0-2F2z9x3ShOtlWRUKHY4BIErA1viUSfmCauil3PrFzxrRAvAmiaCMtpcCf3S" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" style="height: 1px; width: 1px; border-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></div>---------------------------------------------------<br>
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