<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">From <a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">"<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px">Arch Linux defines simplicity as</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px"> </span><i style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px">without unnecessary additions or modifications</i><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px">. It ships software as released by the original developers (</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_(software_development)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Upstream (software development)" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px;background:url("https://wiki.archlinux.org/resources/src/mediawiki.skinning/images/external-ltr.png") 100% 50% no-repeat;text-decoration-line:none;padding-right:13px;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(102,102,102)">upstream</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px">) with minimal distribution-specific (downstream) changes: patches not accepted by upstream are avoided, and Arch's downstream patches consist almost entirely of backported bug fixes that are obsoleted by the project's next release.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.125px">In a similar fashion, Arch ships the configuration files provided by upstream with changes limited to distribution-specific issues like adjusting the system file paths. It does not add automation features such as enabling a service simply because the package was installed. Packages are only split when compelling advantages exist, such as to save disk space in particularly bad cases of waste. GUI configuration utilities are not officially provided, encouraging users to perform most system configuration from the shell and a text editor.</span>"</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:02 PM Harold Hartley <<a href="mailto:wheelie207@ownmail.net">wheelie207@ownmail.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div style="font-family:Arial">I thought arch was just binary. Never knew they started having both.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">If arch is offering a binary system, isn’t that a closed system and doesn’t that violate open source license. That is my question.</div><div style="font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, at 13:58, Stephen Partington wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-2268079972095904521fastmail-quoted"><div style="font-family:Arial">Arch if i am correct is both. and like Gentoo you can build as you install with the option of compile from source. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:40 PM Harold Hartley <<a href="mailto:wheelie207@ownmail.net" target="_blank">wheelie207@ownmail.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> __<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> The first part you said I couldn’t have said any better.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> Now isn’t arch a binary system which has their system files and packages in binary form.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> That doesn’t leave much for fixing a problem on the system if it’s binary files.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, at 13:27, Stephen Partington wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> Mostly it is just a personal preference. Sometimes it is related to the window manager. Sometimes it is the package manager. There are a number of reasons. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> I personally am torn between arch and Ubuntu (especially with their lite install option) I like both for different reasons. I have been considering moving to arch on my laptop. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 12:04 PM Aaron Jones <<a href="mailto:retro64xyz@gmail.com" target="_blank">retro64xyz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> > To entertain all the people who can't do Arch.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> > Le Troll Face.jpeg here<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:29 AM Stephen Elliott <<a href="mailto:tnflyfisher@live.com" target="_blank">tnflyfisher@live.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> What is the purpose of all these different distros? <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > On Mar 3, 2019, at 12:00 PM, <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.phxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug-discuss&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=qJghQhX9hWHCKzKKW9aBQO2zzPJ46052LA8aHlCqZm8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.phxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug-discuss&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=qJghQhX9hWHCKzKKW9aBQO2zzPJ46052LA8aHlCqZm8%3D&reserved=0</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <a href="mailto:plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <a href="mailto:plug-discuss-owner@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss-owner@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..."<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Today's Topics:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > 1. Re: Phoenix Linux (Matthew Crews)<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Message: 1<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 15:15:37 +0100 (CET)<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > From: Matthew Crews <<a href="mailto:mailinglists@mattcrews.com" target="_blank">mailinglists@mattcrews.com</a>><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > To: <a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Subject: Re: Phoenix Linux<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:c07a8f64-f2ad-bc77-5bcd-1227c27d2d52@mattcrews.com" target="_blank">c07a8f64-f2ad-bc77-5bcd-1227c27d2d52@mattcrews.com</a>><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > On 3/1/19 6:18 PM, der.hans wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> moin moin,<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> I have seen references to this, but for the first time went and looked.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> Phoenix Linux - based on lubuntu 16.04.3 LTS<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphoenixlinux.weebly.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=gbDmb4Xv3bBpMO%2By4qtTA2sPhge2s82e39Mx3Daj%2F0M%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphoenixlinux.weebly.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=gbDmb4Xv3bBpMO%2By4qtTA2sPhge2s82e39Mx3Daj%2F0M%3D&reserved=0</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> Has anyone tried it?<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> ciao,<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> >> der.hans<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > I haven't tried it, but it looks like a hobby respin of Lubuntu, but<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > with none of the support (and lagging behind upstream by a significant<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > margin).<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > Hobby distros, especially hobby respins, are a tough sell for me because<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial">>> >> > of the lack of support. 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