<div dir="auto">In line with this. Do not cheap out on your motherboard. It is the biggest PITA to change later. Ram. CPU. Not so bad.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would also look up lvmcache or a similar technology. This will allow you to perk up your spinning drives nicely. This will be especially handy for containers and vm's.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will +1 AMD right now with the fact they have more available pcie lanes especially in the x470 chipsets. And cores make containers and vm's happy. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 7:21 PM Michael Butash <<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net">michael@butash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>> I don't think Intel boxen (nucs) are upgradable very much.</div><div><br></div>Not much outside of ram or disk. If you want a real system for expansion, get a real atx form-factor system. If you need a very specific use-case, get a nuc, pi, or other form-factor.<div><br></div><div>If a general desktop, buy as big as you can afford, and leave some room for expansion - just start with a standard atx if your first time.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want gaming, throw money at the video card, with moderate ram (8-32gb). If you want to do more virtual builds as you said with docker and vagrant, leveraging virtualbox or qemu/kvm, go for more 16-128gb of ram. Get as many cores and as fast a cpu as you can afford with them, plus as much ram as you expect you need.</div><div><br></div><div>I do both gaming and using mine as a server. I tossed the 1070GTX in it, and 128gb of ram with 20 cores, a few M.2 disks, and I want for little. I game a lot, and run whole domains and ecosystems of vendor appliances internally as vm's on it, and it chugs along in most cases. I added some left-over ssd's and spinners I put things like games and non-essential vm's on, just in case they die, which I anticipate they will do as most are orphans from a like-mate disks already dearly departed.</div><div><br></div><div>Surprisingly, gaming hard on it and running a half to full dozen vm's or more on it do little generally to shake it. I'd not expect a typical windoze box to handle anything like this, power of linux imho.</div><div><br></div><div>If anything crashes at all, it's usually the DE compositor freaking out after a few months of uptime. /me coughs "Thanks KDE/Cinnamon."</div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:34 PM Ed <<a href="mailto:plug@0x1b.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">plug@0x1b.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I prefer an AMD based motherboard, more cores is important with<br>
containers, and the new Nvidia 1660 is looking good - more research is<br>
needed beyond that - also <a href="https://camelcamelcamel.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://camelcamelcamel.com</a> can be helpful.<br>
<br>
I don't think Intel boxen (nucs) are upgradable very much.<br>
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Adam Mercer <<a href="mailto:ramercer@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ramercer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:47 AM Aaron Jones <<a href="mailto:retro64xyz@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">retro64xyz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Times have changed. Most stuff works out of the box with little tinkering. What do you plan to do with the box?<br>
><br>
> Good to hear. It'll be mostly used for development work, so I'll be<br>
> using Docker and Vagrant quite a bit. I'll probably be doing a bit of<br>
> gaming on the box, nothing fancy but I'd like a reasonable graphics<br>
> card.<br>
><br>
> > Space requirements?<br>
> ><br>
> > I use multiple Intel NUCS and I love them but if you are looking for a behemoth box to support your 50 card collection of ASICS, well I can point you that way too.<br>
><br>
> I'd been looking at NUCS but didn't know how upgradable they were.<br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
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