<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Btw,<div class="">If you want to run the process automatically at a specified time, you can always do the following:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Su root</div><div class="">Crontab -e<br class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><b class=""><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">30 4 1,15 * 5 rsync >command switches here></span></font></b></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><b class="">This would </b></font><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">cause a command to be run at 4:30 am on the 1st and 15th of each month, plus every Friday. (This example found here: </span></font></span><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><a href="https://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucrontab.htm" class="">https://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucrontab.htm</a>)</span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">This was how I used to do periodic backups. I would then schedule a copy operation the same way but a day later in order to copy the resulting image file into a backup container (usually on a separate external drive also using crontab). This way, there would always be a <span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">backup available.</span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">Hope this helps.</font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">-<span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Eric</span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Data Retrieval unit</font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b></span></font><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 4, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Carruth, Rusty <<a href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com" class="">Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AppleSymbols; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Yeah, it’s a security feature - you (usually) have to be root to mount stuff, unless automount happens to work for the situation you’re in.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And I agree, if it works, don’t fix it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Rusty<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>PLUG-discuss [<a href="mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michael<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 04, 2019 11:11 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Main PLUG discussion list<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Plug<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">thanks buddy:)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:09 PM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Not that I can think of off hand. This looks like a security feature to me. Since it works, I wouldn’t worry about it much.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">-Eric<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild. Security Infrastructure Dept.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">no. I'll just run it with sudo. or is there a specific reason for that?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:22 AM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hmmmm. Have you got a sodo’ers file in /etc? You might have to add your user account there. Also, it probably wouldn’t hurt to add your account to the rsync group.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">-Eric<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Unix and other things Dept.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I also have to sudo it <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:53 AM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Well, if it works, leave it alone. :)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">-Eric<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Hands Off Dept.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Feb 3, 2019, at 6:32 AM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I ran the commands. I ran rsync last night and now I open the..... After investigatin furthrt I have discovered it appended a '1' to Seagate. I added a '1' and it is backing up as I type. I don't like having the 1 on the end but I don't like messing with it any longer!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:54 PM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Ok,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Well, make sure nothing has exclusive use on that drive.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">In terminal issue the following commands:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">umount /dev/sdx (whatever the number is for that drive/fs)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">If there is more than one partition on that drive, unmount them as well.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Then, to erase the drive, I use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx (this will blow away all partition map info, boot sector and the like)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Lastly:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">mkfs.ext3<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> /dev/sdx (you can replace the .ext3 with other FS types if you prefer)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">When done, mount the FS as normal and you should be good to go.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">-Eric<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Drive recyclers Dept.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Jan 31, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I am trying to format it to a native<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:44 PM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Ugh!<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">NTFS. No wonder you are having such issues. Any way to move stuff off there and reformat to a more appropriate FS (like ext4, MurderFS or the like)?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">One thing I have found when dealing with NTFS, I would rather do so inside a file image that gets synced from a physical drive. This way, even the partition info is retained. I also do that with my Mac here when operating time machine backups. I created a file that was then formatted with OSX extended FS, setup a few perms and let fly. This way, one of my external drives can handle backups from multiple Macs without running into machine confusion as to which backup belongs to what.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">-Eric<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Backups-R-us Dept.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Its been running for about four minutes now and the drive is just flashing.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This is what I ran:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">[sudo] password for bmike1: <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><then I realized it was automounted><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo umount /dev/sdc1<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ find /mnt/test -type f -exec cp "{}" /dev/null \;<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Is this correct?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:41 PM <<a href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">> Nope. I'm thinking the external drive is dieing.<br class="">Do:<br class="">mount /dev/<my-dieing-hardrive> /some/where<br class="">find /some/where/ -type f -exec cp "{}" /dev/null \;<br class="">dmesg|grep '/dev/<my-dieing-hardrive>'<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">You'll find a bunch of errors to validate your hunch or you'll fine none to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">rule it out.<br class="">ET<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">PS: I didn't 'sticking up for you'.<br class="">I want to have you around so I can harass you at will! ;-)<br class="">You are a good man Mike, and you have my appreciation and utmost respect.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Michael writes:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">> Nope. I'm thinking the external drive is dieing.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:19 AM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> No problem. Btw, did you ever figure out that latest little issue (I think<br class="">>> it was with rsync)?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>> -Eric<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 6:35 AM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>> ET and Eric.... thanks for sticking up for me.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:10 AM Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>>> No. He is definitely not a troll and like me, he has some challenges that<br class="">>>> can get in the way of properly dealing with the world. So, yeah, his brain<br class="">>>> is wired differently. SO what! So is min, incidentally. On top of having to<br class="">>>> deal with the lifelong effects of a traumatic brain injury (courtesy of a<br class="">>>> hit and run driver in 1989), I am also totally blind. Does this make me any<br class="">>>> less a person? Hell no! Does it mean I might require extra help from time<br class="">>>> to time? You betcha!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><br class="">>>> So, before you go applying that label, please consider the mind behind<br class="">>>> the post before making that judgement.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><br class="">>>><br class="">>>> -Eric<br class="">>>> From the central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Special Services and<br class="">>>> activities Dept.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><br class="">>>> > On Jan 30, 2019, at 7:55 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class="">>>> ><br class="">>>> > No Alexander, Michael is not trolling.<br class="">>>> > I know Michael personally and he is a great guy.<br class="">>>> > He faces some challenges that most of us don't even know exist, and he<br class="">>>> overcomes most of them remarkably.<br class="">>>> > I will not extend about the challenges he faces, but I will indicate<br class="">>>> that he deserves the patience, the help and the respect.<br class="">>>> > Not all hackers are created equally... :)<br class="">>>> > Best!<br class="">>>> > Enrique A. Troconis<br class="">>>> ><br class="">>>> > Snyder, Alexander J writes:<br class="">>>> >> I often wonder if the vague emails from "Michael" are just trolling the<br class="">>>> >> Plug Distro... testing our patience and willingness to help! "I can't<br class="">>>> log in" ....<br class="">>>> >> "How do I print" ... Thanks,<br class="">>>> >> Alexander. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+<br class="">>>> > ---------------------------------------------------<br class="">>>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br class="">>>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br class="">>>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><br class="">>>> ---------------------------------------------------<br class="">>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br class="">>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> --<br class="">>> :-)~MIKE~(-:<br class="">>> ---------------------------------------------------<br class="">>> PLUG-discuss mailing list -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br class="">>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> ---------------------------------------------------<br class="">>> PLUG-discuss mailing list -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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