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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Personally, 4G is not QUITE enough RAM. (Disclaimer - I have 16G on both my personal laptop and my work laptop. I used to have 4G on my work laptop, bah humbug)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My wife’s laptop has 4G, and has to kill off firefox every once in a while due to its apparent memory leak. However, I’ve got 16 G at work running windows,
and every few days *<b>I</b>* have to kill my firefox because it is taking around 14G (or at least guess which window is causing the leak)….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Ok, yes, I’m a heavy user. I confess. (Is there a group for that?) )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’re using Lenovo at work, and a T410 worked fine (as fine as it can with only 4G - but all the hardware worked ok as I remember). 4G max RAM, I think, but
I think there’s a T420 or something that takes more RAM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve had relatively good luck in the old days with Dell (Inspiron 8000 or something like that?), but YMMV.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The only laptops I’ve got personal experience that I know work fine (again, ignoring memory) are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My wife’s, model and so forth forgotten. If you care I can go look<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My personal Alienware, which is WAY outside the price range. The only real issue with it was: you need a recent distro (Mint 17 didn’t work well, Mint 18
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lenovo ThinkPad T410. Used with an older Mint, as I remember everything worked.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I just realized that I don’t think I’ve run Linux on my ThinkPad, so ‘never mind’ on that one, sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Thursday, June 14, 2018 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Main PLUG discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Cheap new Linux laptop advice?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A friend needs a cheap Linux laptop for light duty business work:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Libre Office, printing via USB connection, WIFI, email, and light browsing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">His business (piano tuning) hangs on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He would like the provider to be established with a decent reputation, whether the computer is new or refurbished. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">His cap is $400 but he would prefer closer to $200 . . .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Refurbish?</b> In past discussions here, I’ve seen references in the past of a good refurb provider in town. How well established are they, what’s their batting average?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>New?</b> I see:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> At Amazon:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*Dell Inspiron at Amazon for $205, 11.6" HD Celeron N3060,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 4GB RAM32 eMMC HDD.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*ASUS VivoBook E203NA-YS03 $199, 11.6” Featherweight design<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Intel Dual-Core Celeron N3350 2.4GHz processor,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 4GB DDR3 RAM, 64GB EMMC Storage, App based Windows 10 S<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At Fry’s Electronics:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* HP 14-ax030nr, 14" Stream Laptop With Intel Celeron N3060 Processor,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 4GB Memory, 64GB eMMC and Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Chromebook?</b> I see Chromebooks under $250.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Scrub & convert to Linux?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* USB ports to run a printer and external backup disk?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Storage to run Libre writer + mail client + light surfing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He doesn’t want to entrust all his data to Google, and is happy with Linux.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any specific suggestions would be very welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Victor<o:p></o:p></p>
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