<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are crazy fast.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD. I have and SSD in my desktop and it boots much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe. They are not totally the same, however I think they are close enough. I think some of the performance is based on who made the NVMe or SSD.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote:<br>
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For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about the<br>
same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.<br>
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If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system.<br>
They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so<br>
they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer. <br>
They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at<br>
it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough<br>
to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle<br>
itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and<br>
the same thing can be said of the GPU.<br>
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My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get<br>
new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost. <br>
Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for<br>
making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so<br>
crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket<br>
compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD.<br>
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Brian<br>
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On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, <a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
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If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following road.<br>
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I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go with something that had decent resolution.<br>
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A laptop like this one : <a href="http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.dell.com/en-us/work<wbr>/shop/dell-laptops-and-noteboo<wbr>ks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-<wbr>15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s03<wbr>8</a><br>
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I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches each.<br>
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Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and play so I can use all it's features.<br>
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At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen. Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is also mobile.<br>
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And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing.<br>
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Now this configuration is what fits my needs. What are your needs? Are you editing images or videos? Are you a developer? Or are you researching Linux, or is your research about external things?<br>
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For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3 and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an external backup drive.<br>
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I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale : <a href="https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newegg.com/Product<wbr>/Product.aspx?item=N82E1682014<wbr>7676</a><br>
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I have two cheap used laptop running these. Great performance and as I recall they have a 5 year warrantee. I use one as a Linux web server for testing. The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load Mint on it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything external, using mostly free stuff. I do some video editing so I may need a little more power.<br>
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On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote:<br>
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I am planing to build a Linux computer. I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old<br>
Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer. So "I will be<br>
going where where others do not dare to go." I want a VPN on it<br>
because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now<br>
have. I want a 64bit OS.<br>
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I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux. I<br>
need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use. What would you do if you had<br>
to build your own Linux computer from scratch?<br>
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Thanks for your input.<br>
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Mike Enriquez<br>
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