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Same here. I find UEFI to be superior to BIOS, but secure boot, can
be problematic, but mostly because of who has to sign the boot
loaders.<br>
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Most people that I have run into actually just have a beef with not
having the familiar MBR style of booting, but that just comes from a
lack of experience with proper UEFI boot experience, and not
realizing that the way UEFI boots things is completely different to
the way BIOS boots things... like not realizing that you are
required to have a EFI partition on your drive. Most of the time
that I've seen an unbootable UEFI system is because the whole system
was partitioned without that necessary partition, so the system will
be fully installed, just without any way to be booted.<br>
<br>
Once I wrapped my head around the way UEFI boots systems I found it
to be a much better system than the old MBR method that tends to
only allow the last system to load to actually boot... especially if
that last system is windows.<br>
<br>
Brian Cluff<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/03/2018 04:19 PM, Stephen
Partington wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I have had no issues with UEFI and Linux. The only
time I have arguments with it is surrounding the secure boot
process and playing nice with windows</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, May 3, 2018, 4:00 PM Eric Oyen <<a
href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" moz-do-not-send="true">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I suspect that he would like
to remove at least 1.5 layers of kernel code between the OS
and the hardware.
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<div>Honestly, I really wish the UEFI consortium would get
with the program and compile in some BrltTY support (it's
easy enough to do considering that BrltTY is lightweight,
can have it's libs compiled in and should work under the
UEFI Linux-like environment.</div>
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<div>Believe me, having braille or speech available right
from the POST would greatly enhance my ability to deal
with specific hardware issues that crop up from time to
time.</div>
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<div>-eric</div>
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<div>On May 3, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Partington
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Bios is older than me. Is there a
specific reason you want to disable UEFI? </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, May 3, 2018, 3:22 PM Matthew
Crews <<a
href="mailto:mailinglists@mattcrews.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailinglists@mattcrews.com</a>>
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On May 2, 2018 9:19 PM, <<a
href="mailto:joe@actionline.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">joe@actionline.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> How can I disable UEFI on my Thinkpad T430<br>
> so I can install Linux Mint 18?<br>
> <br>
> I've search the net and tried numerous
"solutions"<br>
> but can't get any of them to work.<br>
<br>
My gut tells me that you can't on your specific
machine. Most motherboard vendors have deprecated
BIOS support in favor of UEFI, and Intel has
specifically said that BIOS will not be supported
in 2020. Best get used to the idea of running with
UEFI, as much as we all hate it.<br>
<br>
Perhaps what you should be looking to do is
disable SecureBoot, and then looking into
installing Linux Mint 18 in UEFI mode? I'd wager
that the MInt installer supports UEFI. Worst case
you install Ubuntu or one of its variants, they
definitely support UEFI.<br>
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