<div dir="ltr">What should I do to wipe the drive? Make like new@!<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't know aboiut the virtual machine. Darktable seems to need 8G of ram to run (it doesn't run with 4 G) and the virtual maachine will chop that in half. I only have 8G in my machine.<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_4046575696550210192h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Carruth, Rusty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com" target="_blank">Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michael, I don't know how to fix the current problem but I can help you from getting into these situations in the future.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The easiest way to accomplish this is to clone the OS drive.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">After you clone, then if you screw up the Os you can just do a reverse clone and you are back to where you started.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also you need to stop doing open heart surgery, for an ingrown toenail. If you're having issues with darktable, post a question about the problem, upgrading the OS seems like overkill.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've mentioned this before, you should look at running your system in a virtual machine.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Then before making changes to the system you can take a snapshot, make the changes and then test them. If things go wrong, you just reboot to the previous snapshot, if all is fine after a week, you can delete the old snapshot.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps for the future.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 8:22 PM Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I forgot to mention that when I load 18.2/18.3 the cdrom icon shows the disk I have in and the install icon is also visible.<u></u><u></u></p>
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I then tried putting a previous version on and this time it installed (instead of failing) but when I restart the computer it loaded the live disk (which was not in the computer at the time. What in the world did I do?<u></u><u></u></p>
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