<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, All. I had written off VLC because I thought of it as a video player. Now learning how to drive it, and to save playlists with it.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Stephen/Brian, I haven’t found how to avoid streaming, but haven’t given it much time. VLC does definitely have a very to-the-point style and it will be useful in more than one way.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Michael, (a) I don’t know how I froze up Rhythmbox but it was very repeatable and I’m not alone in this. But the deal-breaker was that Rhythbox is stuck in streaming mode, and we want the play to stop at the end of each song. (Clementine streams until it finishes the one song flagged to stop at end, then it drops the flag and we set the next flag.) (b) I don’t see where the squeeze approach fits. I’m playing songs to sing in a church, one song at a time, and incidental music at various times. Our desktop wired through a mixer board along with instruments and microphones for live music. The computer also plays video programming segments via </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also might try theatrical software, that sounds more like what I’m doing as far as the purpose is concerned. But at the moment we’re OK with Clementine and I’m testing VLC against it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again,</div><div class="">Victor</div><div class="">_________________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><div class="">On 20180305, at 07:28, Stephen Partington <<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" class="">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">VLC is about the only player I know of that will do this, super straightforward UI but all the power you want under the hood when you need/want it.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Brian Cluff <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank" class="">brian@snaptek.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I just checked and VLC has a setting to pause at the end of each
track (Preferences -> Interface -> Pause on last frame of
video) and when set it does exactly that. You start the next track
by just clicking the next track button and away it goes till it hits
the end of that track. I don't see any fancy internal play list
handing stuff, but you can create and save play lists and when you
load a new play list it's appended to the current play list.<br class="">
The interface can also to customized/dumbed down for what you need.
I'm not sure if it will fill your needs, but it seems to check a lot
of the boxes you wanted checked.<br class="">
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<div class="m_8625285473847567816moz-cite-prefix">On 03/03/2018 05:58 PM, Victor Odhner
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</div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5">I’m using
Clementine to keep playlists, playing songs one at a time.
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<div class="">(I have migrated from my Mac Mini because it’s
vintage 2009, out of support. I looked for a newer Mac Mini but
the newest model is five years old. I went to Linux because I
don’t trust Apple or Microsoft not to jerk us around, and I want
to have a pretty stable 10-year solution. Of course it was
cheaper too, but that wasn’t the main issue.<br class="">
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<div class=""><b class="">What I want:</b> When running an
event, we step through all of the songs in a single
playlist. Songs are played in order, stopping after each
one.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">What I *don’t* need in a music
player</b> is what seem to be the most popular features:</div>
<div class=""> Ability to play a whole playlist as a unit, or
at random;</div>
<div class=""> Access to download from music sources; and,</div>
<div class=""> Flashy graphics, or album and performer
information.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">Clementine is very popular and has
behaved consistently for me. </b>It lacks *any* real
documentation except lots of discussions, mostly about
features that aren’t important to me. There’s one “full
discussion” that should be part of the installation but I
don’t see it. I’ll keep digging through these conversations.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">Does anyone know of a player that is
(a) very stable [like Clementine], and (b) documented ?</b></div>
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<div class=""><b class="">I tried Rhythmbox,</b> but it kept
freezing on me. Apparently that’s a known problem.</div>
<div class="">Rhythmbox apparently has no way to stop after
a song if other songs are inline, so that was another
deal-breaker.</div>
<div class="">But I can thank Rhythmbox for leading me to an
iTunes playlist converter. No other music players seem
ready to import playlist data. Rhythmbox imported it
initially but I had to bail due to freezes. But I still
have that conversion file, and was able to produce a nice
text file that we can search for history. (Newer versions
of iTunes <i class="">do not produce</i> XML conversion
data, but mine was a little older so the file was there.)</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">Current problems I’m working with
Clementine are:</b></div>
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<div class=""><b class="">It says X-ing a tab for a saved
playlist will delete the playlist because it’s not a
“Favorite,” but doesn’t tell us <u class="">how to make
it a favorite</u>.</b> The red heart at the bottom
doesn’t do it. These are saved files. Our first attempt
saved a playlist that we can hide without deleting, even
though I see no indicator that it is a “favorite,” but the
next two are “not a favorite”. I’ll continue to read all
discussions I can find.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">We can only mark <i class="">one</i>
song at a time to stop at the end.</b> Once it stops after
a song, that flag is removed. So their whole concept of a
playlist is start it and it plays through. I’d like to mark
a whole playlist to stop at the end of a song. This problem
is liveable.</div>
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<div class="">Thanks,</div>
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