<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, Bob.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My wife has a chromebook. It saved us a few bucks and she’s OK with it, but it wasted a lot of my time working around it to get printing done: now if she wants to print something double-sided she prints it single and then sends me to Fedex Office to run copies double sided. I don’t like having exactly one way to do something, when I can have choices. And I see no need to ship my data offsite, over a link that just gives us one more component to fail, so that the data can come back.</div><div class=""><b class=""><i class="">:)</i></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know chromebook will grow up, but it’s not ready. I depend totally on Google Calendar, and a few years ago outgrew the stage where it kept losing data.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So thanks for helping Google perfect their stuff. I’m just a dinosaur. I even have a little hobby of keeping my data away from Google when its benefits aren’t compelling. (Yeah, I know that’s futile, it’s just a game for me.)</div><div class="">__________________<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><div class="">On 20171206, at 16:39, Bob Elzer <<a href="mailto:bob.elzer@gmail.com" class="">bob.elzer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Why not just buy a google chromecast.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Then you can send anything you want to it. You could get a chromebook (lots of cheap ones) or send it from most phones (Android phones are linux). You can even cast from a google home mini.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Google Chromecast $35</div><div dir="auto" class="">Google Home mini. $30 currently (requires internet)</div><div dir="auto" class="">Chromebook $100-$400 </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">You could get all 3 for under $200</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Does the church have wifi? if not, you'd have to add that in.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 6, 2017 10:46 AM, "Victor Odhner" <<a href="mailto:vodhner@cox.net" class="">vodhner@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">OK, I’ve decided on Linux. (No longer OT<i class=""><b class="">!</b></i>)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I need recommendations on an adequate PC to run stereo music and videos (1920x1080 projector) for a church.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I decided that Linux would be best to ensure that we can have good performance and up-to-date software for this well-defined application. We wouldn’t be at the mercy of Apple or Microsoft dragging us around a sharp corner. My main backup guy has been using Linux (Mint, like me) for some years, and the apps are basic enough that our other users would be comfortable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d like to keep this as cheap as reasonable, concentrating on solid quality (e.g. really adequate power supply) so that we wouldn’t have to worry about it for 5 to 10 years. I’d want all parts to be brand new, or almost.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is there still a Linux systems store in the Valley? Should I just put together a box with parts from Fry’s or the Web?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hey, is there someone out there who would like to give me a quote for an assembled box? (I have kb, monitor and mouse.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Victor</div><div class="">_________________</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">On 20171130, at 14:55, Stephen Partington <<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_5797213372203368283Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">well if you are looking to maintain portability you can look at the Intel NUC. but really this relies entirely on what your budget is.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Looking at your existing application Digital Performer installs on Windows or OSX, also you can look into the Hackintosh. there are some build guides out there that run with a fully tested hardware configs to consider. <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">But the Mac mini is a viable system even with the age of the device. <br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Carruth, Rusty <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com" target="_blank" class="">Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_5797213372203368283m_1896476210255005382WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">I’m not very happy with Micro$oft’s product, especially 10 (have you actually tried to install 10? I have. Goodness, talk about a step back into pre-history!
It refused to install because there was a CHANCE that it wouldn’t boot – even though I had just proven that it WOULD boot in that configuration – and no way to override their ‘help’!)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">So, for me, its ‘buy the most powerful, RAM-loaded system I can manage (with SSD if possible), and install Linux Mint.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">But that’s just me ;-)</span></p>
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: OT: Mac Mini obsolescent? When next release?</span></p></div></div><div class=""><div class="m_5797213372203368283h5"><p class="">I’d be tempted to get an all-in-one Windows machine (most seem to have touch-screens now) or a small iMac.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">AIO Windows machines are well under $1k.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">Stick to the KISS principle here. <span class="m_5797213372203368283m_1896476210255005382smiley-happy">:-)</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">-David Schwartz<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class=""><p class="">On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Victor Odhner <<a href="mailto:vodhner@cox.net" target="_blank" class="">vodhner@cox.net</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">Spun off from the Genius discussion:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">The Apple CEO reportedly says Mini is still part of their product line, but he won’t say anything about the next release.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">I was another Mini shopper, for supportability and video resolution reasons. Our church music team needs to update a 2009 Mini. I want to get a
<strong class="">new</strong> desktop (laptop wouldn’t fit our config): my goal is to give them hopefully 5+ years of reliable operation. Any comments would be welcome.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">Now looking at ditching the Mini, going to Windows or Linux to drive our video projector (MPV rocks) and an MP3 player. The Mini is where our Digital Performer lives (music synthesizer), but I’ve converted most of our library to MP3s and I can still use
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