<div dir="ltr">However, taking into consideration this is an internal move, the question is - would they negotiate with you and on what terms? Some places will lowball you.<div>Document the tasks and look for a standard. Are you automating/writing scripts, or are you a server babysitter with minimal tasks?</div><div><br></div><div>Really depends. But I will say several years ago, a friend of mine came here to the valley as a consultant and scooped up a perm rate of 140k as a Linux sys admin... so - maybe you can ask around to the linux admins here in town - maybe not a lot on this list, maybe there are... I know he would never attend PLUG... js</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com" target="_blank">m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Actually, depends on your admin tasks. I always make over 6 figs on Moodle gigs here and when I get flown to other locations. </div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2017 8:52 PM, "Kevin Fries" <<a href="mailto:kevin@fries-biro.com" target="_blank">kevin@fries-biro.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">The range seems right because the job spec is so varied. But for someone coming in on the lower end of senior, I would say $90k-$100k is about right.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Most of those higher salaries are closer to DevOps range. If you are expected to contribute immediately at a high level on process development and automation, or cloud based technologies, that is the the money gets into those higher ranges.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Congrats, enjoy and learn.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kevin Fries</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2017 8:35 PM, "Snyder, Alexander J" <<a href="mailto:alex@misteralexander.com" target="_blank">alex@misteralexander.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_2927529866420826538m_3522662199803283785quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I should have included that this is an internal transfer, supported by my current management team as the "next step" in my professional growth plan.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Are salary negotiations different for internal candidates?<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Thanks,<br>Alex.<br><br>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="m_2927529866420826538m_3522662199803283785elided-text">On Nov 8, 2017 7:34 PM, "der.hans" <<a href="mailto:PLUGd@lufthans.com" target="_blank">PLUGd@lufthans.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_2927529866420826538m_3522662199803283785elided-text">Am 08. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Snyder, Alexander J so:<br>
<br>
moin moin,<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello folks --<br>
<br>
Interested to know if the group could advise on what a reasonable yearly<br>
salary would be for a "Senior Linux Administrator" here in the Phoenix<br>
Metro Valley. I have researched online and found a wide spread between<br>
75k-130k ... that seems to vary wildly based on location ... hoping to<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
That spread sems about right. I do know of places that pay less than that.<br>
Need to know abut more places that pay on the top end :).<br>
<br>
Dice, LOPSA and Linux Foundation do salary surveys ( might be the same<br>
salary survey ).<br>
<br>
The biggest key is what you want in order to take the job.<br>
<br>
Money isn't the only reason to jump ship, but if that's part of the<br>
enticement it needs to be enough to compensate for the risk of leaving a<br>
job and taking a change on a new place. If the current gig sucks and the<br>
new gig is awesome, the cost of risk might be negative :).<br>
<br>
Don't forget to calculate the value of other benefits that matter to you<br>
as well. I went from a place with matching 401k to a place without<br>
matching 401k, which significantly reduced the actual pay increase.<br>
<br>
Free gym and mass transit credits are useless to me as I already have a<br>
gym membership and working from home requires no transit :).<br>
<br>
If the new place doesn't really give raises ( as most don't ), then<br>
consider what you'd want to be making in 3 years with at least COLA<br>
raises.<br>
<br>
Also ask about travel requirements and opportunities for training and<br>
conferences.<br>
<br>
Congrats on the offer and good luck!<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
<br>
der.hans<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
narrow that down ... so I can see through any included "Cost of living"<br>
bump.<br>
<br>
I did my own "back of the envelope" calculation and found "$106,865.00" may<br>
be a reasonable ask, but again, this was averaged with data from about 22<br>
different "Tech Hubs" (Atlanta, Austin, SF, Seattle, etc, etc ...).<br>
<br>
I have about 12 years experience with Linux (no Unix exp), and have worked<br>
in a variety of Linux focused jobs, but have never been in a "Senior"<br>
(title) role before, and I'm not sure what a reasonable ask is.<br>
<br>
Right now I'm at $85k and would like to counter an offer, intelligently.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alex.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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