<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Something to consider with text display on a "TV" is to turn off most of the movement enhancing functions.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:08 PM, der.hans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PLUGd@lufthans.com" target="_blank">PLUGd@lufthans.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 15. Nov, 2017 schwätzte David Schwartz so:<br>
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moin moin,<br>
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yeah, I ended up with the 50" TV because one of my 27" monitors went out<br>
and the TV was the same price as a new pair of matching 27" monitors, but<br>
with the space of 4 27" monitors.<br>
<br>
During Q4 I need to keep an eye on lots of metrics and graphs with circles<br>
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what it is.<br>
It was awesome to have so much screen real estate.<br>
<br>
My current half-baked plan is to mount the behemoth on the wall with the<br>
raisable wall mount to go with the standing desk. That will then house my<br>
NOC display with all the pretty graphs.<br>
<br>
The new monitor would then be my work desk for a boatload of xterms and<br>
an unfortunately growing number of browser windows. Also, Slack sucks and<br>
eats way too much screen real estate.<br>
<br>
I'm finding that several feet of width needs a curved screen for me. Aging<br>
eyes and too many parallel tasks.<br>
<br>
The biggest need is better text display, but might as well get all the<br>
reasonable features I want since it's not an emergency this time. I'll do<br>
fine with the current setup, but it would be good to have something with<br>
less eye strain.<br>
<br>
The monitor death last year was going into the busiest weekend for the, at<br>
the time, new $dayjob. I couldn't afford to be down to a single 27"<br>
postage stamp-sized display :).<br>
<br>
Brian pointed me at <a href="http://www.rtings.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rtings.com/</a> as a great site for comparing<br>
TVs. It was really useful.<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
<br>
der.hans<br>
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Curved screens are about 2x the cost of non-curved screens. I think they’re way over-rated, mainly because they’re only curved along one axis.<br>
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If I were to buy something “curved”, I’d get a spherical curve, which nobody makes (yet).<br>
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A 55” TV as a monitor is equivalent to 4 x 27” HD monitors in a single panel. A truly awesome experience to behold!<br>
<br>
A couple of years ago I got a Seiki 39” 4K TV on sale for around $350 and used it as a monitor with my MacBook Pro for quite a while. It does a great job. (I’d love to sell it if anybody is interested.)<br>
<br>
My aging eyes don’t work well with things close-up, and a 39” 4K is roughly equivalent to 4 x 20” monitors. I can no longer look at 20” monitors for very long. Even 24” monitors are a challenge.<br>
<br>
But I can look at 27” screens all day without fatigue. And I don’t even need my reading glasses much of the time.<br>
<br>
So I recently upgraded to a mid-range 55” LG WebOS UJ6300 TV. Boy, what a nightmare it has been. (more on that shortly)<br>
<br>
After I got it and had trouble making it work well, I dug around the interwebs for quite a while and managed to find a few blogs where people actually posted results of trying different 4K TVs as computer monitors.<br>
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Believe it or not, it seems like the low-end 4K TVs are far better suited for use as computer monitors than fancier ones.<br>
<br>
My LG TV cost me around $850. I’ve seen them for $650 lately, but I would definitely NOT recommend LG TVs (or higher-end TVs) for use as a monitor.<br>
<br>
The reason is … the fancier TVs have logic in them to “optimize” the picture and reduce flicker and artifacts and other weird stuff.<br>
<br>
That is to say, they make motion videos (both HD and 4K) look AWESOME at 4K resolution. But computer monitors are anything BUT “motion videos”.<br>
<br>
Besides that, this thing has so many frigging settings on it that it took me several sessions drilling through multiple settings and testing stuff before I got it to look halfway decent.<br>
<br>
Just locking it in 4:4:4 mode is amazingly convoluted.<br>
<br>
The screen on this LG is sharp as hell at 4K, but the colors are funky, and I’ve spent way too much time trying to fix them.<br>
<br>
My suggestion is simple: go to Costco and buy the cheapest 4K 55” (or smaller if you prefer) TV that they have. I think it’s something like TLC brand with built-in Roku for around $425.<br>
<br>
Try it out and if you don’t like it, take it back.<br>
<br>
The Samsung 6300 is highly rated as a monitor as well, but I think it’s no longer being sold.<br>
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Do NOT get an LG TV for use as a monitor. However, if you want to watch movies on it in your living room, then it’s an EXCELLENT choice.<br>
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FWIW, there are 4K monitors now that are 27” and smaller. I might have been able to see them 15 years ago, but when your eyes start to “age-out”, it’s a lost cause.<br>
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I *LOVE* the real estate that a 4K display offers, and having the equivalent of 4 x 27” HD screens on one panel is perfect for my eyes today.<span class=""><br>
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Yes, the edges are a few inches further away than the center, but my eyesight is fine for anything more than about 4’ away. So a curved screen would be of no particular benefit to me.<br>
<br>
(Think of your typical desktop — do you need it to be curved to have stuff spread out? No! You simply grab what you need and pull it in front of you.)<br>
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-David Schwartz<br>
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On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:11 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@LuftHans.com> wrote:<br>
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moin moin,<br>
<br>
I'm considering a wide, curved 4k monitor.<br>
<br>
I'll be connecting to an HDMI port.<br>
<br>
I'm currently using a 4k TV with text display issues. It was the best<br>
option at the time, but my eyes really, really want a better text display.<br>
I'm also finding that a wide flat display is less than ideal, hence the<br>
desire for curved.<br>
<br>
Any recommendations for specific monitors? Places of acquisition?<br>
<br>
I normally ignore black Friday sales, but this year many of them appear to<br>
be black November sales. That works better for me, if I'm going to change<br>
I need to do so before Thanksgiving as that's when silly season hits full<br>
swing for $dayjob.<br>
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ciao,<br>
<br>
der.hans<br></span>
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