<div dir="ltr"><div>Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up your case and point a fan in there.<br></div>Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a power failure outage,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">okay<div>`</div></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:briend@gmail.com" target="_blank">briend@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.<br><br></div></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">run this now or after stress completes?<div>?</div></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:briend@gmail.com" target="_blank">briend@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:<br><br><a href="https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testing-in-linux/" target="_blank">https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-<wbr>benchmarking-and-stress-testin<wbr>g-in-linux/</a><br><br></div>So maybe kick off both stress and <br><pre>glmark2 --run-forever</pre></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just started..... lets see what happens</div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:briend@gmail.com" target="_blank">briend@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for more than 10 seconds?<br><br>This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:<br><br>stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s<br><br></div>If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, then it has nothing to do with darktable<br><div><br></div></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.</div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:briend@gmail.com" target="_blank">briend@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the machine panics when it's just warm.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But first check your sensors by installing a temperature monitoring program</div></div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2 minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of the 2 minute thing.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s</div><div>stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 vm, 0 hdd</div><div>stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s</div><div><br></div><div> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but there it is.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like a hard reboot.</div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982m_-457335927677881440HOEnZb"><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982m_-457335927677881440h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are experiencing slowness during render cycles.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982m_-457335927677881440m_1834143918960493567h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run chrome and darktable at the same time.<div>___</div><div>'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :</div><div><div>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]</div></div><div>and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set</div><div>(if I did that correctly)</div><div>so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a gpu.... correct?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982m_-457335927677881440m_1834143918960493567m_49559483438068435h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com" target="_blank">Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Butash<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: computer slow<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="m_3929920138272307032m_4979079048914715826m_-1750259129584451925m_8226497220927562818m_-7039769153033243327m_-1299595992701007226m_7140497983416620681m_-3493899385764194978m_-8659253890139238452m_-3968723119029678325m_5381388375203248172m_-6656124936302932350m_-6560149970340055982m_-457335927677881440m_1834143918960493567m_49559483438068435m_-1802419248645484613h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I ever have that, it's usually because of something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading over time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if something is consuming all your memory or cpu.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on your desktop environment of choice, try
turning down graphics options, or disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe I shouldn't do that) and twice so far
I come up to it and it is non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?<span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all">
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