<div dir="ltr">Perhaps while you are looking for a programming job, you could work on an open source project as a volunteer. Fix some bugs and start to build a "portfolio" of programming successes/examples that you can show to potential employers. No face to face interaction needed, just email. Might help you decide if you really like programming on your own.<div><br></div><div>I also agree that the advice to be a web developer is very poor for all the reasons listed above.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Steve Litt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slitt@troubleshooters.com" target="_blank">slitt@troubleshooters.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:20:09 -0700<br>
<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
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> On 2017-10-16 22:09, trent shipley wrote:<br>
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</span><span class="">> You sound like a candidate for being self employed. If you can<br>
> develop a way to generate leads you can spend most of your time away<br>
> from the ruckus.<br>
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</span>But if you're self-employed, you need to do sales.<br>
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