<div dir="ltr">I had 32gb until a year ago or so, and my system would trip out over nothing. but my normal use, but I'm not normal Looking at it like a network with ~50% utilization, I figured 64gb ram would be a stopgap, and 128 probably more what I want, so let ebay sniping commense. Linux is pretty damn robust when the DE isn't crapping on itself, or the graphics.<div><br></div><div>I've mentioned the laptop, but the desktop is a 2x cpu dell precision 7910t had from ebay, I stacked in some E5-2630 v4 cpus (20 core, 40ht/ea), some 8x samsung ddr4 ecc sticks, an nvidia 1070 gts, and a pair off samsung 950 512gb in raid1 (960 was like a month out, meh) ssd m.2 drives on dual pci carriers to the 8x bus. I don't want now, linux does not stop, just the DE. Prior whole sys would crash with usage about once every 2 weeks. Cinnamon poops out about once a month, but I just hup it. It's more compositing/gpu shite that still can't cope.</div><div><br></div><div><div>[mb@desktop ~]$ uptime</div><div> 19:22:01 up 97 days, 10:11, 8 users, load average: 1.53, 1.21, 1.15</div></div><div><br></div><div>## as of now</div><div><br></div><div>Last config, i7-4760k, 32gb ddr3 would crap out, and often. I blame kde mostly, why I use cinnamon now. Not perfect, but more stable. Fsck compositing, I can deal without, really, but they won't let me.</div><div><br></div><div>YMMV, as they say.</div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Aaron Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:retro64xyz@gmail.com" target="_blank">retro64xyz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. I remember when I used to put Linux on low spec machines...</div><div><br></div><div>You know, the guy at the computer store told me I would never fill my 10gb hard drive. But thanks to bloat and Lennart Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte ssd just to be effective. The future is here ladies and gents... and it is gloriously unoptimized. </div><div><br>On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington <<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">I am currently running 24gb ram and would use more. But I have a combination of VM use, photography (ram goes fast when you have 24mp raw) gaming and other strange tasks going. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 6, 2017 1:48 PM, "Carruth, Rusty" <<a href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com" target="_blank">Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, we've kind of strayed from the original topic, so I'll do a pre-emptive strike and change the subject. Hopefully nobody gets mad...<br>
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So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his computer. And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource user! (I once was moved to my own personal Sun Sparc computer because I kept beating up the shared one getting work done...)<br>
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But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he didn't exactly say that, but it was implied). (Moment of openness - I once had 50 tabs in a single Firefox window, and there were at least 4 other Firefox windows running. At this point in time, I have 17 firefox windows running, with a total of 32+5+14+17+10+17+32+30+14+98+1<wbr>2+60+16+1+12+3+18+40. Whoa, that even surprised me. Anyway, 'only' 5G of ram in use on this 16G windows machine...)<br>
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Also, I don't consider a thin client to be useful for anything but a work machine which is unable to leave the office. Too many ways to have things not work (or be hacked/etc).. IMHO, of course :-)<br>
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Rusty<br>
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On 2017-09-06 12:26, <a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
> What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a<br>
> 1T SSD?<br>
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Android development? :-) An Android project someone else put together here uses some sort of library or syntactic sugar combination that makes compiles peg the CPU for several minutes when one line of one file's changed. (Java's always been a bloated sack, but this is kind of<br>
unusual.)<br>
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> Given that [using someone else's computer as a vital part of whatever<br>
> you're doing], a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a<br>
> 128G SSD should be enough.<br>
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Maybe for some really lightweight use cases. git assumes you have infinite storage space. Any nontrivial node.js project will eat 512M in node_modules dependencies. The Android Studio support directory here is 42G. The graphic design people here said that there was no way they could get by with machines that had only 256G SSDs, because .psd files are huge. And these are work machines. You'd have to add the space music and media collections take up to personal machines.<br>
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> Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious<br>
> video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the<br>
> cloud and thin client hardware is the way to go.<br>
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If you have a 100% reliable and fast network, and your disk space needs are tiny, and your external service provider won't die, this *might* work. Being able to work (and play) on a personal machine without external dependencies is useful in enough circumstances that I wouldn't consider buying a thin client as anything other than a toy.<br>
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