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<p>:-)</p>
<p>I can barely believe I'm reading some of that stuff on a Linux
users' group, where computer literacy (and beyond) is
exceptionally high.</p>
<p>I remember a decade ago when "news" anchors were caviling about,
"Who's running this internet?!? Who's in charge of this?!?"</p>
<p>OMG, the sky was falling, ya know.</p>
<p>This reminds me of that. <shudder></p>
<p>- Vara<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2017 2:47 PM, Anon Anon wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Vara has cool opinions. I like Vara. Keep keepin
it real.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 20, 2017 14:43, "Vara La Fey"
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<p>Nuh uh. Open hotspots is one of the great things about
the internet, and from time to time everyone needs one -
sometimes in the middle of the night or during holidays
when lobbies with keys posted aren't available. Open
hotspots are also a good way to maintain anonymity for
dissidents, whistle-blowers, LGBT who are not "out",
etc. When I have my own routers, I often run them open
for all these reasons, and I always will.</p>
<p>I sometimes educate family and friends about PGP, and
one of these days I will run a Tor node as well, with
all the censor-circumvention tools available. The more
that censors and anti-anonymity Orwellianists don't like
it, the more everybody should do it.</p>
<p>I don't give .001% of a damn whether actual criminals
use hotspots or anything else, in exactly the same ways
I don't give .001% of a damn if they use guns, cars,
roads, kitchen knives - or anything else.<br>
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<p>Instead of desiring safety over the animating quest for
freedom, why don't you suggest educating people to use
https? As it is, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_5621474434848089927moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.eff.org" target="_blank">www.eff.org</a>)
recently reported that https use is up to 40%, IIRC.</p>
<p>- Vara<br>
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<div class="m_5621474434848089927moz-cite-prefix">On
3/20/2017 12:29 PM, Victor Odhner wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> I’m really annoyed that so many
companies offer open WIFI when it would be so easy to
secure those hot spots.
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<div>Restaurants, hotels, and the waiting rooms of
auto dealerships are almost 100% open.</div>
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<div>I am not one to say “there ought to be a law”
because we have too many doggone laws, and I’m not
that into a lot of demonstrating and yelling. But I
would love to help educate companies on why they
should secure their routers.
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<div>
<div>If I were a progressive type, I’d suggest
putting stickers on those venues saying:</div>
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<div> We don’t have passwords on our WIFI</div>
<div> because OUR WIFI (and YOUR passwords)</div>
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<div> should be available to everybody</div>
<div> with no effort!</div>
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<div>But being more right-wing, I’d much rather
recognize that they’d be happy to do the right thing
if we could explain it to the right people. </div>
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<div>I’ve repeatedly thanked the mechanic shop I use
(C&R Tire on Tatum) because they have a key
posted and I can feel sort of safe going online
while I wait for an oil change. But all the places
that have open routers are corporate owned so it
does no good to gripe to the folks behind the desk.</div>
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<div>Any ideas on this?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Victor </div>
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