<div dir="auto">Can I get refund on my spyboxone?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 7, 2017 18:14, "Matthew Crews" <<a href="mailto:mattcrews@mattcrews.com">mattcrews@mattcrews.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">Forcing the government to reveal it's methods won't work. In such cases where criminal charges are involved for example, the US government would rather drop charges and let perpetrators go free than reveal their methods. </div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">Source: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/doj-drops-case-against-child-porn-suspect-rather-than-disclose-fbi-hack/" target="_blank">https://arstechnica.<wbr>com/tech-policy/2017/03/doj-<wbr>drops-case-against-child-porn-<wbr>suspect-rather-than-disclose-<wbr>fbi-hack/</a></div><span>
</span><br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">On Tue, Mar 7, 2017, 17:52 Eric Oyen <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg" target="_blank">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely it is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure products.<div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux devices. Then again, one can dream. :)</div><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">-eric</div><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">From the central office of the Technomage Guild</div><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">special office: cyber security</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:</div><br class="m_-7020196556966224624m_5356450551162520322m_8298760500047295815Apple-interchange-newline m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div dir="auto" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete against their tactics....</div><div class="gmail_extra m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <<a href="mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg" target="_blank">eric.oyen@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OMFG!<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
*sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual. Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film: swordfish!<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
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perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than this.<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
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-eric<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
from the central office of the Technomage Guild.<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
Special office: cyber security.<br class="m_-7020196556966224624gmail_msg">
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