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    <p>I thought that word for non i3 computers was 'intuitive'. :)<br>
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    <p>i3, while powerful, has a steep learning curve and is not meant
      for everyone.<br>
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    Brian Cluff<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/2016 12:07 PM, Anon Anon
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAM3qynEv+JX-zQ21AWk5znkSNSOUd=v-mup67JOA+tMkOPtYPA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p dir="ltr">I recommend the i3 window manager. There is a word
        for computers that don't use i3. That word is 'broke'.</p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 1, 2016 11:11 AM, "Brien
          Dieterle" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:briend@gmail.com">briend@gmail.com</a>>
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            <div dir="ltr">You can also try a different window manager
              in case it is some bizarre gnome-shell thing.  On the
              logon screen you should be able to pick from a few.  If
              there is only one option I'd recommend installing Xfce or
              MATE to try. <br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM,
                Brian Cluff <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Have
                  you tried creating a new user and logging in with all
                  fresh settings.  That should at least tell you if it's
                  the program itself or some other settings on your
                  account that are causing your crash.<span
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                      On 10/31/2016 04:58 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:joe@actionline.com" target="_blank">joe@actionline.com</a>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        Brian Cluff last wrote:<br>
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                          Any chance you upgraded, but haven't rebooted
                          lately.<br>
                          I've had firefox crash on my like this in the
                          past and a reboot,<br>
                          or at least a logout and back in got
                          everything working fine again.<br>
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                        Yes, I have tried rebooting, to no avail.<br>
                        <br>
                        As previously posted, I have also tried a
                        reinstall, to no avail.<br>
                        <br>
                        Then tried a complete uninstall, fresh install,
                        and reboot, to no avail.<br>
                        <br>
                        Then tried complete uninstall and deleted all
                        firefox and mozilla<br>
                        files and tried reinstall and reboot, but
                        firefox still crashes immediately.<br>
                        <br>
                        Everything else on my system works fine.<br>
                        <br>
                        I hate updates because they have almost always
                        given me fits.<br>
                        <br>
                        I have tried to keep up with Mint 17 updates,
                        but the last few times, I<br>
                        got errors that needed files cannot be found in
                        the repository.<br>
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