<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">actually,<div>there are other reasons for using an encrypted tunnel besides bit torrent. How about secure banking? or perhaps secure purchasing? mayhap even more secure email access. And yes, if there is a torrent I want to get (and it is perfectly legal too), I don't want my ISP pulling bandwidth throttling or bitching at me for supposedly downloading copyrighted materials when they aren't (yes, I have had this actually happen).</div><div><br></div><div>-eric</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 4, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Michael Butash wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well, I think we're talking about two
different kinds of vpn:<br>
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1) VPN for Remote Access. Connecting to home, work, or some other
form of remote access to a given network. I don't think that's
what we're discussing here, but if desired, openvpn as a server
would be just fine. I do that here on my wrt router for remote
access to my network, and use zerotier as a SDN solution for
networking between given hosts on any network as another more
convenient alternative.<br>
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2) VPN for Hiding Yourself. This is what I think we're mostly
talking here, which is using a VPN client to connect to a remote
network, using recommended services like PIA for making yourself
appear to be leaving another country to keep scavenger laywers at
bay. This uses usually either a Socks/HTTP Proxy connection, or a
full openvpn-based connection.<br>
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If you or anyone you know likes to bittorrent pretty much anything
anymore, do yourself a favor and use a (#2) VPN. If you just want
to remotely access your home/work resources, #1 is what you want.<br>
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On 10/03/2016 09:17 PM, Stephen M wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with toddc. If your starting to learn
about VPN networking it's best to try a free option. I had
Zentyal installed on an old desktop that is collecting dust at
the moment. But I had OpenVPN working in home and it worked
fine. Sure I remoted into my home server once in a while but I
was able to learn how to setup a VPN. I was looking at tigerVPN
a few years but and I've also looked into sshuttle. I don't see
a need for a big or pay fee VPN unless I'm doing something
massive. For learning purposes do something small and in house
before you go public.<br>
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their lifetime deal they had recently on android
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If you are just looking for a vpn to your
home there are many free vpn and or firewall
router vpns or even a Raspberry PI<br>
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makes a great home VPN server $35.00 or a old
desktop would also work<br>
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also a lot of routers already include a Built in
vpn of some kind</div>
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