<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/14/icann-internet-control-domain-names-iana">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/14/icann-internet-control-domain-names-iana</a><div><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37114313">http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37114313</a></div><div><br></div><div>And for those who don't trust liberals:</div><div><a href="http://www.hoover.org/research/tricky-issue-severing-us-control-over-icann">http://www.hoover.org/research/tricky-issue-severing-us-control-over-icann</a><br><div><br></div><div>Basically the US had to turn it over, or there would be a rebellion, and the US controlled ICANN would be forked, and made irrelevant.</div></div><div><br></div><div>It appears that the post-American ICANN will mostly be run the same way that standards for the web itself (W3), ethernet, and USB work. ICANN will mostly be run by a consortium of big companies, and to a lesser extent governments. Some governments will favor easy to censor internets, and some will favor open internets, and almost all will want easy to monitor internets, and the companies won't care what happens. I think we will see flexible solutions so that constituencies can optimize solutions for their own needs, while still maintaining a lot interoperability at the edges of subnets.</div><div><br></div><div>Organized and coordinated internet Balkanization.</div><div><br></div><div>Trent</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:27 AM Wayne D <<a href="mailto:waydavis@centurylink.net">waydavis@centurylink.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>8 years ago, when Obama was elected the buzz HERE was how it was
wonderful, he'll bring change.<br>
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<p>8 years ago, MY reply was: "You people are going to get exactly
what you deserve. The only problem (I) have is that (I) will get
what YOU deserve as well."<br>
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<div>On 08/28/2016 09:06 PM, David Schwartz
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<p>It seems like pretty much everything in America started with
the election of one Barack Hussain Obama in 2008.</p>
<p>I guess the world will end when he steps down next January, eh?</p>
<p>-David Schwartz</p>
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<p>On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Keith Smith
<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank"><techlists@phpcoderusa.com></a> wrote:</p>
<p>The article states in part “Without the U.S. contract, Icann
would seek to be overseen by another governmental group so as
to keep its antitrust exemption. Authoritarian regimes have
already proposed Icann become part of the U.N. to make it
easier for them to censor the internet globally. So much for
the Obama pledge that the U.S. would never be replaced by a
“government-led or an inter-governmental organization
solution.””.</p>
<p>This could be really bad.</p>
<p>What is the solution?</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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