<div dir="ltr">good to know, thank you<div>Phil W</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Brian Cluff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Those 2 things are both still there.<br>
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For the menu selection, it has been moved slightly to a better location. You now right click on the K icon and select "Alternatives" and then you are given a list of ALL the menu alternatives that exist. The "Alternatives" selection seems to be a configuration design that they have carried across everything that can or does have multiple options. It should make less obvious options noticeable to more people.<br>
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For the desktop, they have combined all the different desktop types into a single versatile desktop. So to get a classic desktop with icons on it, go to the "Wallpaper" tab under the desktop settings and change it from "Desktop" to "Folderview". I have noticed that the folder view specific setting don't appear in the desktop settings area until you exit out of the desktop settings and then go back in.<br>
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Brian Cluff<br>
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On 10/14/2015 02:09 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:<br>
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Well, for one, I dislike the tabbed menu KDE has by default, so I<br>
usually do a right click and "Classic Menu Style". Student said that was<br>
gone (I haven't tried out 15 yet). Also that you can't easily set the<br>
desktop to "folder view" either. If those are true, that's not a good<br>
sign for the rest of it. I need to get the live DVD and test it myself.<br>
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Phil W<br>
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Brian Cluff <<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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On 10/13/2015 06:14 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:<br>
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Yes, and the UNITY thing on Ubuntu also beat windows 8 to the punch.<br>
That was when I switched to Kubuntu. I've had a student testing<br>
kubuntu<br>
15 and it looks like the customizations I normally do to KDE<br>
have been<br>
disabled (or hidden) in KDE 5....may start looking at Mint or<br>
something<br>
else.<br>
<br>
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Just curious, what customizations are you finding that are missing?<br>
In my option Kubuntu 15.04 was really a rough release and I haven't<br>
recommend it to much of anyone. Plasma 5 appears to have been<br>
adopted about 2 months too soon to make it the default desktop in<br>
Kubuntu. After about 2 months you could load the Kubuntu backports<br>
PPA and that would make things fairly nice.<br>
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There are a small handful of plasmoids that didn't make the port<br>
over to the plasma 5 environment, one of my favorites being the the<br>
"quicklaunch" plasmoid. At first I was pissed, but on doing some<br>
research I found out that the quicklaunch plasmoid has been<br>
abandoned by the author for years so it was bound to get dropped<br>
anyway. The good thing is that the effective functionality of the<br>
quicklaunch plasmoid has been pulled into the folderview plasmoid<br>
which changes it's behavior if it's put into a panel.<br>
<br>
Anyway, cut to the as unreleased Kubunutu 15.10... It's a whole<br>
different beast compared to the 15.04 rlease, and in my opinion is<br>
what should have been the initial plasma 5 desktop release. All the<br>
crashes are now gone. Most of the missing features are back and the<br>
still missing ones are most likely your least used features and<br>
should be back in shortly. The desktop is silky smooth and<br>
noticeably faster than the 14.x versions of KDE. Of course it could<br>
also be argued that Kubuntu wouldn't have been in such a good state<br>
if it hadn't released plasma 5 to the wild when it did... oh well,<br>
it is what it is.<br>
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If you are currently running 14.04LTS then I believe that by the<br>
time you upgrade to the next LTS in 6 months, the desktop should be<br>
just a faster, smoother version of what you already know... only better.<br>
If you are looking to upgrade sooner, then I think you'll still find<br>
the desktop in excellent shape... It might be missing a few minor<br>
features right now, but there is often a workaround till the feature<br>
gets added back in in the near future.<br>
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Probably the biggest change that might bite you is that KDE is now<br>
storing it's configurations in more standard locations like .config,<br>
.local, etc and a small number of other paths have changed as well,<br>
like the path to the service menus. A quick mv and a softlink<br>
quickly take care of the legacy location on an updated box.<br>
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Brian Cluff<br>
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