<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">lucidchart was surprisingly good as a replacement for visio.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">but i have to agree with alot of this. and i think office 365 is getting stable under wine again so it should be viable in that environment soon if not already.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I think they just have enough demand
for interoperation between linux and azure (hyperv) that they are
forced to support linux just to keep their users happy. They
can't avoid it, proven they can't defeat it, so they're only left
to play nicely or eventually be replaced by it, even if that is
just patching kernel bugs to keep it working on their platforms.
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Oracle finally had to as well, as their solaris user market was
dying quickly, and really they just needed a stable os to put
underneath their other suits of overpriced middleware. This way,
they could control and default tweak sysctl's so clueless
outsourced labor can dummy install oracle db's like they had a
clue how to optimize linux.<br>
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Besides, it would be a boon to make linux work with active
directory vs. having to integrate 3rd party products around it
(centrify, powerbroker, ipa), which would only adds yet more value
to active directory to rule them all if not having to. The holy
grail for linux environments is always to be rid of the last
components that stand in your way to domination, usually AD and
desktops for (l)users, but what if you didn't have to?<br>
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If they had a decent visio port under linux, I might actually pay
for it vs. just trying to replace it for the past 10 years. Sadly
they'd just release a half-assed, bastard port like they did
office for mac, that you might as well just use libreoffice, for
free.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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On 09/17/2015 11:59 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:<br>
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<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/?mt=1442559356305" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/?mt=1442559356305</a>
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