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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Also of note, I've never had real
success with wine for anything other than diablo, but I really
like using seamless mode under virtualbox. I use that running 2
windoze systems (my work image and a personal with my old office),
and it works quite slick across all my monitors (5 currently) with
free-floating apps like visio or whatever under win.<br>
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I call windoze my "visio hypervisor" for a reason, I can mostly
ignore windoze is there with seamless mode and that I still need
to have it around at all.<br>
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-mb<br>
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On 09/18/2015 03:04 PM, Michael Butash wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree to some extent, I have tried
lucidcharts, and eventually plan to move to that, though I
cannot do nearly as detailed work in network diagrams as I do in
visio with lucid.<br>
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I also have a 1.5yr old issue with lucid that their layer import
methods are broken, which is a big issue for me. I'm a big user
of layers in visios for layering things, usually layer 1, 2, 3
data, addressing, other logical data, etc with that, and it just
sort of pukes them all out when importing any format of visio.
I didn't really try, but I expect their layers are just as
broken exporting to visios as importing from.<br>
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Sadly visio is almost a standard for it networking industry, and
I begrudgingly always have to admit, it really is the *best* of
it's kind at doing so for technical doc drawings. I just
usually say Microsoft didn't make/start it, they just acquired
them, so it wasn't totally inept product from the go. I do hate
this ribbon thing having to use office 2013 lately on a customer
instance, I feel like a mcdonalds cashier.<br>
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-mb<br>
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On 09/18/2015 01:32 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:<br>
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replacement for visio.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif">but i have to agree with alot of this. and i
think office 365 is getting stable under wine again so it
should be viable in that environment soon if not already.<br>
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