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    Sorry for my late comment response.<br>
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    What distribution are you using? The reason I ask is that lets say
    you are using CentOS 7, CentOS 7 uses Chrony
    (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chrony.tuxfamily.org/">http://chrony.tuxfamily.org/</a>) for its ntp service (installed and
    running by default) and ntpd will have all sorts of problems unless
    you remove Chrony first.<br>
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    Gilbert<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/9/2015 7:21 AM, James Mcphee
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">What I'd do is ntpdate -bu <time server> to
        force the time, then do an ntpd start and check messages to see
        if it complains about anything, check process list to see if it
        started, and do an ntpq -c opeers after 15 minutes to see what
        it thinks about life.  You seem to have an ntpd.log, so maybe
        that has some info.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Tejeev
          Patel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tejeevpatel@gmail.com" target="_blank">tejeevpatel@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">So I'm thinking there has to be some sort of
              concurrent startup runlevel issue.  Not really sure how to
              adjust this, but do you see any place in that init script
              that could cause this or something left out of the
              dependencies or something?  Here's the first bit of the
              init.d again:<span class=""><br>
                ### BEGIN INIT INFO<br>
                # Provides:        ntp<br>
                # Required-Start:  $network $remote_fs $syslog<br>
                # Required-Stop:   $network $remote_fs $syslog<br>
                # Default-Start:   2 3 4 5<br>
                # Default-Stop: <br>
                # Short-Description: Start NTP daemon<br>
                ### END INIT INFO<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 7:23
                    PM, Tejeev Patel <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:tejeevpatel@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tejeevpatel@gmail.com">tejeevpatel@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                            <div>Hi all,<br>
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                            <div>Thanks for your replies James and
                              Hans.  I've included some responses in the
                              bellow email:<br>
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                            <div> </div>
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                              moin moin TJ,<br>
                              <br>
                              what James said in regards to debugging
                              ntp :).<br>
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                            <div><font color="#3d85c6">Ill check on
                                these step tickers, but my understanding
                                was that the -g option should take care
                                of that.  Can I put in sdout's in the
                                init script to log when stuff is being
                                done so i can maybe trace where it
                                quits?  Any recommendations on where to
                                put them in or how to do some debugging
                                here?<br>
                                <br>
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                              <br>
                              Here are some other things to check.<br>
                              <br>
                              Is there some ntp process already running?<br>
                              <br>
                              ps auxw | grep ntp<br>
                              <br>
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                            <div><font color="#ff0000"><span
                                  style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">No NTP
                                  process already running.</span><br>
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                              Is there a config file in /etc/default/
                              that has an entry to not start<br>
                              ntp?<br>
                              <span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br>
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                            <div><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">Only
                                see an ntpdate config that basically
                                says to look at the server list in
                                ntp.conf rather than it's own and a ntp
                                config that includes the option -g that
                                I was originally looking to include
                                here.<br>
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                              Is ntpdate installed and configured to
                              prevent ntpd from starting?<br>
                              <span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)"><br>
                              </span></blockquote>
                            <div><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">ntpdate
                                is apparently installed  </span><br>
                              <br>
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                              As James mentioned, ntp will refuse to
                              change the time if it's off too<br>
                              much. Check to see if the systems are
                              within a couple of minutes of the<br>
                              actual time.<br>
                              <br>
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                            <div><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">ntp
                                will quit if the time is off by 1000 s
                                or more but the -g option should
                                override that.</span><br>
                              <div style="margin-left:40px"> <span
                                  style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">( -g
                                  Normally, ntpd exits with a message to
                                  the system log if the offset exceeds
                                  the panic threshold, which is 1000 s
                                  by default. This option allows the
                                  time to be set to any value without
                                  restriction; however, this can happen
                                  only once. If the threshold is
                                  exceeded after that, ntpd will exit
                                  with a message to the system log. This
                                  option can be used with the -q and -x
                                  options.)</span><br>
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                                  style="color:rgb(61,133,198)"></span></div>
                              <span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)"><br>
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                              Verify your hardware clock is set to UTC.<br>
                              <br>
                              Make sure your OS is set at the proper
                              offset from UTC, e.g. you're set to<br>
                              now and AZ time zone, rather than now and
                              eastern time zone.<br>
                              <br>
                              If the boxen are servers they should be
                              set to UTC. Star date blah, blah,<br>
                              blah and all that.<br>
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                            <div><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)">Both
                                hardware and software are set to UTC on
                                our servers.</span><br>
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                              cioa,<br>
                              <br>
                              der.hans<br>
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        <div class="gmail_signature">James McPhee<br>
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