<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Now this is interesting. It looks like they tuned the FB from a few angles in Linux.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-352-21-Linux-Video-Driver-Is-a-Massive-Update-484392.shtml">http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-352-21-Linux-Video-Driver-Is-a-Massive-Update-484392.shtml</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah, I've run into that first, I blew out/increased my ulimit's to those to some 768k from a default 32k (chrome, thanks), and didn't seem to hit those last time, rather just the xclient limit. Not really sure how much I *should* open them really, considering 32k is default, even setting to 3/4 of a million seems absurd, or a bug, or just google + now kodi.<br>
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I haven't used windoze in so long - do they just not limit anything ala fork-bomb style file descriptors? It's that old paranoia that linux bothers to set some limits (justified, I had an old security-inclined buddy fubar a system of mine once to prove it, single-user style to recover), but seems there just aren't limits under windoze that people consider.<br>
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Guess people are just used to windoze tipping over and rebooting. Granted, so am I at this point linux.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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On 06/14/2015 09:32 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:<br>
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I was just googling around and found someone who mentioned that the "Maximum number of clients reached" can mean literally that, or can mean that your system has run out of file descriptors.<br>
Check the output of lsof instead of xlsclients and see if you can figure out what is eating your system since it sounds like it's more of an FD type problem than a max client problem.<br>
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Brian Cluff<br>
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On 06/14/2015 09:22 PM, Michael Butash wrote:<br>
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And right after, could no longer unlock my desktop to get at it, even<br>
switch ctrl-alt-F1 and back to F7, which normally works until the system<br>
just comes unglued.<br>
<br>
So there's apparently 2 layers of problems:<br>
<br>
1) xorg clients exceed counts<br>
<br>
2) system craps the bed as a result, not able to spawn new applications<br>
via xorg display's<br>
<br>
Odd that system level things like simple-locker break when doing so,<br>
simply no longer rendering. Upon montior wake-up, I'll see my full<br>
desktop, even able to mouse over some things like cairo-dock that<br>
respond to compositing (of which I killed as a test, no kwin/desktop<br>
effects running since boot), but cannot otherwise interact enough to<br>
restart/unlock/reboot the window-manager or system.<br>
<br>
Side note, my tty's seem to bind to the non-existent intel sh*t<br>
card/port on the mobo, so even when ctrl-alt-F1, I don't actually get a<br>
term. I can ssh to it, but have tried this, restarting lightdm just<br>
hangs the system. Hard reset like a windoze box time.<br>
<br>
And it's back for a few days, again.<br>
<br>
I really don't think my usage that abnormal, but seems no one else runs<br>
into these things. Very frustrating.<br>
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-mb<br>
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On 06/14/2015 08:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:<br>
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Ah, xbmc/kodi seems to be a big reason.<br>
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Fired kodi up to catch certain season ending content tonight, and<br>
yeah, took me from 118 xclients before to max after. At least I got<br>
to watch though.<br>
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I tried to launch something after moving it to the background, no<br>
launch, no error, just usual telltale signs of brokenness, so checked...<br>
<br>
mb@host:~$ xlsclients -a | sort | wc -l<br>
Maximum number of clients reachedxlsclients: unable to open display ":0"<br>
0<br>
<br>
Thought what changed from an hour ago, nothing more than launching<br>
kodi. Killed it (kill -9 pids, kodi wouldn't die otherwise), and voila.<br>
<br>
mb@host:~$ xlsclients -a | sort | wc -l<br>
118<br>
<br>
As usual, probably plugins developed on windoze that doesn't bother to<br>
limit exploit of the os (probably more encouraged by the nsa). But<br>
hey, at least I know I need to yell at someone there to figure out how<br>
to code it and their plugins properly.<br>
<br>
Just an fyi.<br>
<br>
Side note, this isn't the ultimate evil it seems but a significant<br>
one. Tried to launch a gl-based game last night too, and get things<br>
like sdl() failures to spawn a window, so there's something else<br>
getting run-down over time. Craptastic part is absolutely nothing<br>
errors system-wise, even doing a blanket tail -f on /var/log/*, hoping<br>
something would bark to indicate such. I still think amd binary<br>
drivers are crap.<br>
<br>
-mb<br>
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On 06/14/2015 12:33 AM, Michael Butash wrote:<br>
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It's gotten *that* unstable lately, it's hardly worse than rebooting<br>
every few days.<br>
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-mb<br>
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