<div dir="ltr">you may wnt to warn him that cities do you satelite imaging. I have a friend who put a pool in, the next year his property tax increased because of the pool.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature">:-)~MIKE~(-:</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Keith Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2015-04-30 20:05, JD Austin wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think Victor is on the right track.. <br>
"Hey.. I heard through the grapevine that someone already complained<br>
to the the HOA and they're just waiting for you to FINISH what you're<br>
doing in the backyard before they come down on you along with the city<br>
code enforcement people. I wanted you to know before you wasted a ton<br>
of money doing whatever you're doing over there so you can get the<br>
right permits/etc while you can." <br>
<br>
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</blockquote>
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<br>
This is a no win situation. You tell him you heard it through the grapevine and he will wonder who is talking about him and his business. And more so how you know all these details.<br>
<br>
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Victor Odhner <<a href="mailto:vodhner@cox.net" target="_blank">vodhner@cox.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Why don’t you just play it straight? The old “don’t tell<br>
others, tell us!” policy.<br>
<br>
Do you think your neighbor would hate you if you mentioned that<br>
you’d heard of people losing a bundle because they had to tear out<br>
a non-compliant structure? I’m presuming that your motive really<br>
is for them to be spared a major hassle. You could embellish a<br>
little, “A friend of mine really got beat up by the licensing<br>
people because he screwed up on some stupid details . . . “.<br>
<br>
On Apr 30, 2015, at 16:00:40, Keith Smith<br>
<<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
On 2015-04-30 15:19, <a href="mailto:joe@actionline.com" target="_blank">joe@actionline.com</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Every day, I receive email messages sent to me from fake sender<br>
</blockquote>
email<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
addresses, even spam garbage supposedly sent to me from my own<br>
</blockquote>
email<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
address. How do they do that?<br>
While I have never done this before, I now have a need to do send<br>
</blockquote>
an<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
email completely anonymously (preferably using our homeowner<br>
</blockquote>
association<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
email address ;) and would like to know how this can be done<br>
</blockquote>
safely and<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
not illegally.<br>
To briefly explain, we have a neighbor who has poured the<br>
</blockquote>
foundation to<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
build a structure in his back yard (without obtaining a building<br>
</blockquote>
permit)<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
and if he should proceed, this non-compliant structure will cause<br>
</blockquote>
him<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
even greater expense and hardship if he is not prevented from<br>
</blockquote>
proceeding.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The size of the foundation makes it very obvious that the<br>
</blockquote>
structure is<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
not in compliance with either city building codes or HOA<br>
</blockquote>
requirements.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Needless to say, we want to avoid causing hard feelings with our<br>
neighbor, so we would like to be able to alert the city<br>
</blockquote>
authorities<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
*anonymously* in order to protect our neighbor from continuing<br>
</blockquote>
and ending<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
up with very costly consequences.<br>
Regrettably, our home owner's association has taken the position<br>
</blockquote>
that<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
they will indeed take the necessary corrective actions, including<br>
notifying the city building code department, once the building is<br>
</blockquote>
built<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
and visible from the street; however, they say that they will not<br>
</blockquote>
take<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
any action until the building is built and a "visible" violation<br>
</blockquote>
has<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
actually been committed. How stupid is that?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Is it against your HOA's CC&R's to pour a slab in the back yard of<br>
your house? Probably not. If not the HOA would not have a leg to<br>
stand on. Once a structure is visable even if it is just the frame<br>
it probably will then fall under your HOA's jurisdiction.<br>
<br>
I would assume city code requires a permit to lay down concrete for<br>
any use. At this point it is probably a city issue.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So, my question is, how can I send an email to the city building<br>
</blockquote>
code<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
enforcement department to alert them of the homeowner's failure<br>
</blockquote>
to obtain<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
a building permit so that the email will appear to be from our<br>
</blockquote>
homeowner<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
association?<br>
I have already spoken to them by phone, but they will not take<br>
</blockquote>
any action<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
until they receive a formal "complaint" via their online input<br>
</blockquote>
form which<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
requires submitting the name and contact information of whoever<br>
</blockquote>
is filing<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
the complaint. They say that such reports are best and usually<br>
</blockquote>
filed by<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
HOAs and not by neighbors, to avoid needless conflicts.<br>
Obviously, I could just wait until my neighbor has spent all the<br>
</blockquote>
money to<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
build the structure and then have a prolonged legal action to<br>
</blockquote>
force him<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
to tear it down, but how much better to protect him from all that<br>
needless pain and expense?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I would never spoof an email. Who knows where that can lead. <br>
They will be able to track it back to you anyway, unless you really<br>
get fancy.<br>
<br>
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