<p dir="ltr">When switching distros, there is often a thousand tiny differences to get used to. Some distros like CentOS are really great as servers but make less desirable desktops. Others like Fedora are just the opposite. In the Ubuntu world, they separate desktop and server versons. It helps to learn the philosophy behind whatever distros you use before you start using it... things may be different, but they will then make sense.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Ubuntu is, and for the foreseeable future, will be primarily a desktop install base. To that end, they make their desktop for grandma. Servers on the other hand are to support the desktops. This differs from the RHEL philosophy that came more from the old Unix style. So where RHEL is about centralization of network resources, Ubuntu is more about support of the desktop (kinda Microsoft like).</p>
<p dir="ltr">What that means is this... RHEL in trying to centralize resources, defaults to setting up home directories for users. This is because they expect you to be having central home directories. In a well run RedHat setup, all your home directories are on one server, and any other server is taking their users from LA or AD. But Ubuntu is about the desktop. They expect users to keep their files locally... again think Windows. Now the server does not need a directory for end users... they simply need access to resources like the mail server via sendmail, or the Web server. No local accounts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Neither way is wrong, just different. But understanding the concepts behind the distro helps to understand when you will need to adjust your thinking.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In Ubuntu, add the -m switch to tell it to add your home directories. You will also need to turn on the feature to support public_html directories. Ubuntu is expecting you to store files locally, Cent is expecting you to store them publically.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Make more sense now?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Kevin </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 22, 2014 6:34 PM, "Keith Smith" <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2014-12-22 15:33, James Dugger wrote:<br>
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Hey Keith. Is this for a production or development environment? <br>
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Production<br>
<br>
For<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
prod, I have typically seen no home directory for users other than<br>
root (for both Debian based or RHEL). In either distribution you can<br>
explicitly assign a different home folder so you can do<br>
/var/www/public_html as the accessible directory using the --home<br>
option. If you need that user to be able to ssh into the web<br>
server than you can give them access by adding them into the<br>
ssh_config file (I forget the details) but search Ubuntu how to for<br>
this. <br>
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I tie the vhost and user together so there is an sftp path to upload content.<br>
<br>
How would you upload content if you have multiple vhosts and only one user?<br>
<br>
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<br>
Since you are adding DNS and email (these would typically be different<br>
servers in production), this may make it more difficult to not have a<br>
default separate home folder.<br>
</blockquote>
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I agree they would normally be separate. However this server is in my home office so everything needs to be in one box.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Nothing Says you have to do it this way. But in production the idea is<br>
to reduce the accessible footprint of all users to the minimum needed<br>
access.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Makes sense.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your feedback.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
I decided to move to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS after 7 years with<br>
RHEL/CentOS. I'm very used to RHEL and am experiencing an adjustment<br>
with this move.<br>
<br>
With RHEL I would add a user and use that user as the docroot<br>
(/home/username/public_html) for the associated vhost. This would<br>
give ssh access (after adding to the sshd_config) and sftp access.<br>
<br>
When I add a user to Ubuntu it does not create a home directory.<br>
<br>
When I did the install I selected LAMP,DNS, and mail servers.<br>
<br>
I was not able to shell into the server and found SSH had not been<br>
installed. I was surprised. I installed SSHD and now I can access<br>
the box via the shell.<br>
<br>
I'm starting to get the feeling I am approaching this build<br>
incorrectly.<br>
<br>
I want to build 1 box that handles LAMP+DNS+Mail<br>
(Postfix+Dovecot+Spamassassin+<u></u>MySql) Looks like the install did a lot<br>
of the heavy lifting by instating and configuring everything.<br>
<br>
So my main question is, am I going about this correctly or am I not<br>
understanding the difference between Ubuntu and RHEL?<br>
<br>
Thanks a bunch!!<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
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