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    I did not say explicitly, but it is my opinion that you do not need
    to, and should not flash the BIOS as the BIOS is booting.<br>
    <br>
    Yes, per Wikipedia, as I understand it, part of the EFI is on the
    hard drive, I assume that if the ROM BIOS is looking for that 
    portion it will go weird, as in hanging or something equally
    exciting.<br>
    <br>
    Please consult others for verification.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2014 07:10 PM, Stephen M
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      <div dir="ltr">My drive is plugged in and yes I can boot into a
        live CD.  For a while it allowed me to fix the grub bootloader. 
        Not it says it found a GPT partition but nothing is on there but
        the OS.  And when I try to format a bios_boot partition.  It
        just throws up more errors.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:57 PM, koder
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:iscreamkid@gmail.com" target="_blank">iscreamkid@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> If you do not have
              the hard drive plugged in can you boot to your DVD?<br>
              <br>
              In other words can you boot up, say with Knoppix or
              equivalent?
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                  <div>On 12/17/2014 12:05 PM, Stephen M wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Plus rufus doesn't see my USB drive
                      when my laptop does.  As for trying to open an EFI
                      shell, thats not happening.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at
                        11:59 AM, Stephen Partington <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:
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                          <p dir="ltr">Nevermind missed that this was
                            post dban. </p>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2014
                                11:58 AM, "Stephen Partington" <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>>

                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                  <p dir="ltr">Well that's strange.
                                    We're there any recent changes? </p>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17,
                                    2014 11:26 AM, "Stephen M" <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:smelheim85@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">smelheim85@gmail.com</a>>

                                    wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                        <div>Yes the BIOS does see them
                                          both.  The trouble is that it
                                          was booting to EFI first now
                                          it won't boot to either legacy
                                          or EFI.  It just sits there
                                          after the setup screen.<br>
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                                        Ya thats what I am trying to
                                        work with.  I have a copy of
                                        WINs7 but it doesn't want to
                                        load.  This computer doesn't
                                        have a floppy and I don't have
                                        access to one at the moment.  So
                                        I need to find other solutions.<br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
                                          Dec 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM,
                                          Stephen Partington <span
                                            dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:
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                                              <div class="gmail_default"
                                                style="font-family:trebuchet
                                                ms,sans-serif">2
                                                thoughts,</div>
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                                                style="font-family:trebuchet
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                                              <div class="gmail_default"
                                                style="font-family:trebuchet
                                                ms,sans-serif">1 - Does
                                                the bios see the drive
                                                physically?</div>
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                                                style="font-family:trebuchet
                                                ms,sans-serif">2 - you
                                                will need a boot disk
                                                (freeDOS or something
                                                similar) to run the
                                                executable. or a windows
                                                environment.</div>
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                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at
                                                    11:19 AM, Michael
                                                    Butash <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:
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                                                        <div>HP is
                                                          notoriously
                                                          horrible about
                                                          supporting
                                                          linux on
                                                          desktop or
                                                          laptop's, so
                                                          you won't get
                                                          help there. 
                                                          They're also
                                                          quite
                                                          proprietary
                                                          acpi
                                                          implementations,
                                                          so likely
                                                          still (haven't
                                                          looked in a
                                                          while) no one
                                                          bothers to
                                                          figure out and
                                                          support them.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          My first, and
                                                          subsequently
                                                          last, hp
                                                          laptop I kept
                                                          the original
                                                          windoze disk
                                                          for this
                                                          purpose alone,
                                                          and just
                                                          loaded new
                                                          ssd's with
                                                          linux.  About
                                                          6mo ago I sold
                                                          to a friend,
                                                          but flashed
                                                          the bios from
                                                          windoze
                                                          luckily having
                                                          kept it as the
                                                          only option I
                                                          could find to
                                                          get a current
                                                          bios on it. 
                                                          Install xp
                                                          long enough on
                                                          a temp disk to
                                                          flash it?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This is why
                                                          I've usually
                                                          decried HP to
                                                          the good folks
                                                          on this list -
                                                          they're just
                                                          not linux
                                                          friendly, and
                                                          hardly worth a
                                                          darn for
                                                          anything but
                                                          servers
                                                          anymore.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -mb</font></span>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On 12/17/2014
                                                          11:03 AM,
                                                          Stephen M
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hi,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I need help
                                                          again to be
                                                          able to
                                                          reflash my
                                                          BIOS.  The
                                                          reason is that
                                                          my computer is
                                                          having trouble
                                                          reading my
                                                          drives, CDs,
                                                          or USBs.  I
                                                          know this is
                                                          the case with
                                                          the desktop
                                                          because it
                                                          works fine in
                                                          my laptop.  I
                                                          have tried to
                                                          reset the BIOS
                                                          and thought at
                                                          first to
                                                          reinstall
                                                          GRUB.  Nothing
                                                          is working but
                                                          my HDD does
                                                          show it does
                                                          have a OS on
                                                          it.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          i already
                                                          downloaded the
                                                          BIOS version
                                                          from HP but it
                                                          is an exe
                                                          file.  Could
                                                          anyone help me
                                                          to see how I
                                                          can fix this
                                                          problem?<br
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