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    If you do not have the hard drive plugged in can you boot to your
    DVD?<br>
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    In other words can you boot up, say with Knoppix or equivalent?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2014 12:05 PM, Stephen M
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      <div dir="ltr">Plus rufus doesn't see my USB drive when my laptop
        does.  As for trying to open an EFI shell, thats not happening.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:59 AM,
          Stephen Partington <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
              target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:
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            <p dir="ltr">Nevermind missed that this was post dban. </p>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2014 11:58 AM,
                  "Stephen Partington" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                    <p dir="ltr">Well that's strange. We're there any
                      recent changes? </p>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2014 11:26 AM,
                      "Stephen M" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:smelheim85@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">smelheim85@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                          <div>Yes the BIOS does see them both.  The
                            trouble is that it was booting to EFI first
                            now it won't boot to either legacy or EFI. 
                            It just sits there after the setup screen.<br>
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                          Ya thats what I am trying to work with.  I
                          have a copy of WINs7 but it doesn't want to
                          load.  This computer doesn't have a floppy and
                          I don't have access to one at the moment.  So
                          I need to find other solutions.<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2014
                            at 11:21 AM, Stephen Partington <span
                              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:
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                                  style="font-family:trebuchet
                                  ms,sans-serif">2 thoughts,</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_default"
                                  style="font-family:trebuchet
                                  ms,sans-serif">1 - Does the bios see
                                  the drive physically?</div>
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                                  style="font-family:trebuchet
                                  ms,sans-serif">2 - you will need a
                                  boot disk (freeDOS or something
                                  similar) to run the executable. or a
                                  windows environment.</div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec
                                      17, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Michael
                                      Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:michael@butash.net"
                                          target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
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                                          <div>HP is notoriously
                                            horrible about supporting
                                            linux on desktop or
                                            laptop's, so you won't get
                                            help there.  They're also
                                            quite proprietary acpi
                                            implementations, so likely
                                            still (haven't looked in a
                                            while) no one bothers to
                                            figure out and support them.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            My first, and subsequently
                                            last, hp laptop I kept the
                                            original windoze disk for
                                            this purpose alone, and just
                                            loaded new ssd's with
                                            linux.  About 6mo ago I sold
                                            to a friend, but flashed the
                                            bios from windoze luckily
                                            having kept it as the only
                                            option I could find to get a
                                            current bios on it.  Install
                                            xp long enough on a temp
                                            disk to flash it?<br>
                                            <br>
                                            This is why I've usually
                                            decried HP to the good folks
                                            on this list - they're just
                                            not linux friendly, and
                                            hardly worth a darn for
                                            anything but servers
                                            anymore.<span><font
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                                                On 12/17/2014 11:03 AM,
                                                Stephen M wrote:<br>
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                                                    <div>Hi,<br>
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                                                    I need help again to
                                                    be able to reflash
                                                    my BIOS.  The reason
                                                    is that my computer
                                                    is having trouble
                                                    reading my drives,
                                                    CDs, or USBs.  I
                                                    know this is the
                                                    case with the
                                                    desktop because it
                                                    works fine in my
                                                    laptop.  I have
                                                    tried to reset the
                                                    BIOS and thought at
                                                    first to reinstall
                                                    GRUB.  Nothing is
                                                    working but my HDD
                                                    does show it does
                                                    have a OS on it.<br>
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                                                  i already downloaded
                                                  the BIOS version from
                                                  HP but it is an exe
                                                  file.  Could anyone
                                                  help me to see how I
                                                  can fix this problem?<br
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                                                        <div>Stephen
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                                    <div>A mouse trap, placed on top of
                                      your alarm clock, will prevent you
                                      from rolling over and going back
                                      to sleep after you hit the snooze
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