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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I really don't think anything messed
      with the bios, they usually require some kind of specific driver
      or method to chat with the bios, usually relying on the vendor to
      create a linux binary, or at the bios level, to update the
      firmware.  I wish I could automagically update the bios, it's
      usually a pain.<br>
      <br>
      You might consider booting the drive on a usb to sata adapter on a
      working system, or whatever format the disk is, to see if another
      os sees it even inserted.  Usually you'll get some sort of dmesg
      spew about this and that as it inserts and probes the hardware. 
      If linux/grub doesn't see it  at all, it's usually damaged.  Worst
      case you'll usually get /dev/sd[a|b|c] inserted message, which is
      linux understanding how to probe the hardware, and subsequent
      enumeration of your partitions if possible as /dev/sdX[1|2|3] as
      the partition.  A live cd should see some form of /dev/sdX drive
      aside from the usb.<br>
      <br>
      If you see /dev/sdX without the number, and some grumbling about
      missing partitions, likely it wiped your data enough wipe from
      sector 0 at least as you let it run.<br>
      <br>
      I'm thinking it isn't seeing your partition/mbr, etc, but probably
      sees /dev/sdX without at least /dev/sdX1 meaning you wiped your
      data.<br>
      <br>
      Does the bios see it on the sata bus?  If so, the disk should be
      OK as long as you can rewrite the partition or access it without
      ata failures.<br>
      <br>
      Only other thing is maybe a bug in the kernel not seeing a legacy
      adapter or something buggin' it out.  Maybe a different distro
      with an older kernel?  I have booted a newer kernel that didn't
      see old devices before for whatever malfeasance there was (usually
      stupid video card/driver issues tho, never a disk).<br>
      <br>
      I did have crappy disk firmware update utility from linux nuke my
      Adata ssd with an upgrade binary to fix the disk from linux that
      was here today, gone tomorrow once invoked on my drive.  Their
      crack(head) tech support promply ignored me too, but again,
      requires some sort of binary interaction that is far from default
      on a disk utility to automagically update bios or firmware to a
      disk or mobo.  Dmesg just would give ugly kernel messages of sata
      timeouts beyond that -  to the garbage pile and blacklist of
      vendors to buy disks from.<br>
      <br>
      I just lost another ssd, apparently an equally crappy Crucial m100
      disk after 2 months that gave out showing me no partitions and ata
      timeouts, so maybe bad luck of it just giving out on a cleansing? 
      Every disk seems to die in different ways, especially with the
      advent of ssd's.<br>
      <br>
      -mb<br>
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      On 12/15/2014 05:59 PM, Michael Torres wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">That is odd..... IDK anything about dban but it
        does seem like something messed with BIOS....  do you have a
        clean working drive that  you can install and boot to.  One that
        is NOT a USB?  Try that, at least you'll be able to narrow down
        the issue in one direction or the other.<br>
        <br>
        Mike<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:46 PM,
          Stephen M <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">Well that didn't do anything still looking
              for EFI.  But I am going to see about downloading this new
              version of the BIOS and see if it will run or not.<br>
              <br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM,
                Stephen M <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:smelheim85@gmail.com" target="_blank">smelheim85@gmail.com</a>></span>
                wrote:
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                  <div dir="ltr">Haven't tried to reset the BIOS but did
                    try to change the boot order.<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at
                          5:30 PM, Michael Torres <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:matorres124@gmail.com"
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                          wrote:
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                              <div>I am not trying one bit to sound
                                arrogant or sarcastic, but have you
                                tried to reset BIOS? or Re-order the
                                boot order?<br>
                                <br>
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                              Mike<br>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec
                                    15, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Stephen M <span
                                      dir="ltr"><<a
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                                        <div>This might seem odd.  But
                                          is there a chance that dban
                                          messed with my BIOS firmware? 
                                          I am having trouble loading
                                          even a live CD.  BIOS doesn't
                                          always work but computer will
                                          boot into EFI.  I know it
                                          sounds strange but thats the
                                          only thing I can think of.  If
                                          it was just the drives than I
                                          would just assume the boot
                                          sector might have been messed
                                          up.  But when I try to boot
                                          into a live CD it will only do
                                          it through EFI.  The same
                                          thing happens when I try a
                                          live USB.  I know it works on
                                          legacy BIOS because my laptop
                                          sees it right away.  <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        Just wanted to know whats the
                                        best course of action.  The BIOS
                                        is HP and from their website it
                                        should be the most current
                                        version.<br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
                                          Dec 15, 2014 at 2:34 PM,
                                          Stephen M <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:smelheim85@gmail.com"
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                                          wrote:
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                                            <div dir="ltr">Ok, well at
                                              this point I should be
                                              able to get a program to
                                              rewrite the boot sector so
                                              I can setup an OS on the
                                              drives.  So that is what I
                                              am looking for something
                                              that will help on that
                                              respect.  I am that the
                                              creators of dban would not
                                              make a program that would
                                              wipe a disk completely so
                                              that you can never use it
                                              again.<br>
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                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at
                                                    2:32 PM, Michael
                                                    Butash <span
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                                                        <div>It sounds
                                                          like it wiped
                                                          at least the
                                                          boot sector,
                                                          and probably a
                                                          good chunk of
                                                          your os disk
                                                          as an
                                                          unintended
                                                          victim.  Hate
                                                          to say it, but
                                                          never used
                                                          dban, so not
                                                          sure if it's a
                                                          glitch or just
                                                          meant to
                                                          blatantly wipe
                                                          *everything*
                                                          in a system. 
                                                          Sounds like
                                                          the later...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If so, you're
                                                          likely a bit
                                                          (or lot)
                                                          hozed.  If you
                                                          know the
                                                          geometry of
                                                          the disk
                                                          partitions,
                                                          you can maybe
                                                          recreate the
                                                          partitions and
                                                          access some of
                                                          your data, but
                                                          seeing as
                                                          you're now
                                                          missing
                                                          contiguous
                                                          chunks of
                                                          disks, my
                                                          guess is
                                                          unless you're
                                                          using
                                                          forensics
                                                          tools, you're
                                                          not going to
                                                          get at it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -mb
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On 12/15/2014
                                                          02:26 PM,
                                                          Stephen M
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hi
                                                          everyone,<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          I need help
                                                          again with my
                                                          computer.  I
                                                          am not sure
                                                          what happened,
                                                          but ever since
                                                          I used dban to
                                                          erase one HDD
                                                          connected
                                                          through a usb
                                                          adapter my
                                                          desktop
                                                          doesn't want
                                                          to load an
                                                          OS.  It was
                                                          working fine
                                                          until dban
                                                          started to
                                                          erase the
                                                          entire disk. 
                                                          I stopped it
                                                          before it
                                                          could get too
                                                          far.  Now when
                                                          I try to boot
                                                          into either of
                                                          my disks it
                                                          doesn't see
                                                          them.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          I've already
                                                          tried to use a
                                                          live CD to
                                                          correct the
                                                          problem and I
                                                          have an OS on
                                                          one of my
                                                          drive.  But
                                                          the computer
                                                          won't load
                                                          into and says
                                                          it can't find
                                                          a bootable
                                                          disk.  I am
                                                          sure that one
                                                          of the disk as
                                                          an OS on it. 
                                                          When I use a
                                                          live USB it
                                                          won't load. 
                                                          But I use it
                                                          on my laptop
                                                          and it works
                                                          just fine.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Any
                                                          suggestions?<br
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