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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cox too is only going to be building
      the ftth optical pon networks into new housing developments as
      they go, retrofit is pretty much unlikely if you have a house
      today with coax.<br>
      <br>
      Telco's like CL are screwed, they *have* to upgrade to fiber to
      even remain competitive as dsl cannot go much more on 2 wires
      untwisted, but sheilded coax, with clean upstream provider plants,
      can stretch this a way well into the gigabits so even without
      fiber, you're not totally screwed having *only* cable (unless in
      ancient parts of town with crap old coax from acquisitions)<br>
      <br>
      What is bunk is this now makes Cox your mostly only choice for
      modern fast internet in legacy areas, so certainly they'll abuse
      the pseudo-monopoly until someone decides to take on the cost to
      refurb old areas with fiber (read: not unless you pay for it,
      somehow).<br>
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      -mb<br>
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      On 12/04/2014 12:06 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
          ms',sans-serif">most of the fiber areas are the really new
          locations. however due to the google fiber rollout this is
          changing alot right now as Cox is getting ready to announce
          gigabit speeds in order to compete with google fiber.</div>
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              href="https://fiber.google.com/newcities/">https://fiber.google.com/newcities/</a></font><br>
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href="http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/2014/10/26/cox-internet-gigabit-high-speed-phoenix/17949237/">http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/2014/10/26/cox-internet-gigabit-high-speed-phoenix/17949237/</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Todd
          Millecam <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tyggna@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyggna@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">I'm a long time linux guy looking to move
              back home to Phoenix/Maricopa county.  I was wondering if
              anyone knew of neighborhoods that already have fiber
              hooked up in the Phoenix area so I can know where to start
              my house-hunting at.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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                  <div>Todd Millecam</div>
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        <div class="gmail_signature">A mouse trap, placed on top of your
          alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back
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