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On 12/02/2014 11:38 AM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACYBypJZedZKx1HKeoSu2iMweMtSX9hKYmOHxA-ueAz7K5zmXg@mail.gmail.com"
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<div>Definitely! Thanks for that.<br>
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When asked what I would do with my pi, I mentioned
I was going to do a Tor Relay. One member looked
at me, laughed and said, Good luck with that.<br>
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Another time, I was assisting someone with an
install. The idiot next to me was flinching
twitching and making grunting noises. <br>
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Finally, I turned off the machine and said, "And what
would you do?!"<br>
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He made a suggestion which was what I actually had done
already.<br>
The woman who I was assisting even said, "Isn't that
what you were doing"<br>
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Another incident was when I stated that one member of the
installfests was rude and if Todd didn't take care of
that, I would. I was accused of threatening this member
when I was simply stating in front of a group of people
that Mark was a rude arrogant problem that needed to be
dealt with. <br>
<br>
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Now, maybe, it's just Todd. However, I went to leadership
who did nothing until I started making noise at a higher
level. The noise wasn't even about the gender bias but the
push on Ubuntu and the treatment of members. <br>
Incidentally, when I went to local leadership, he acted as
if I were lying before any investigation. <br>
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<div>Women come to your meetings and then leave. Maybe the
general population of the group do not realize why because
so many people come and go from the PLUG. Maybe people think
women cannot handle the content or that they are leaving
because of other reasons. <br>
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I was all but pushed out of your old boys club. In fact, Todd
stated he didn't want me at the installfests. Was that because
I was insisting on positive change or because I was female.
You tell me? He laughed at me several times. Of course, he was
not that nice to other members either. I never noticed him
condescend to any of the males though. <br>
<br>
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<div>There is gender bias. Maybe not at your local meetings
because it's just ALL LECTURE.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Shawn
Badger <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:shawn@badger.pro" target="_blank">shawn@badger.pro</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>I have been in the PLUG for a while now and have not
seen any gender bias.<br>
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Can you point to any examples of how the group is gender
biased so the group can work on those issues?<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:33
AM, Kaoru Wilbur <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com"
target="_blank">m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>hans, <br>
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I am sorry you cannot take a joke. <br>
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Of course, sexual harassment is no joking
matter. <br>
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Accusations of this are quite serious. <br>
<br>
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I never witnessed anything or experienced sexual
harassment. <br>
<br>
Gender bias is quite obvious in your LUG.<br>
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<div>On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM,
der.hans <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:PLUGd@lufthans.com"
target="_blank">PLUGd@lufthans.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Am 01. Dez, 2014 schwätzte Kaoru
Wilbur so:<span><br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
Well, this was an interesting
thread.<br>
I would like to chime in here for a
moment.<br>
<br>
While I have not experienced
unwanted sexually advances by anyone
at PLUG<br>
in recent years, I will state there
is a gender bias, definitely.<br>
<br>
Some people may not experience this
gender bias because, well frankly,
we<br>
are unsure of your gender...<br>
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</span>
That's uncalled for, especially right as
you're claiming there is gender bias.<span><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
All joking aside, as a community, we
really could be a little more<br>
thoughtful, tactful and less like
assholes.<br>
</blockquote>
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</span>
Most of us do a good job. Over the years
there have only been problems<br>
with a few people. Most adjust their
behavior when it's pointed out.<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
<br>
der.hans<span><br>
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