<p dir="ltr">I have Hitachis that are 2 years old running in raid 10 (MD) with no issues. An other array have had 1 WD black go bad. I have one array that I mixed drive brands (each 1.TB) w 1 Seagate Barracuda in the array (raid 10). The Seagate always falls out of sync due to virtual blocking.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'm trying WD reds next.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 19, 2014 8:51 PM, "George Toft" <<a href="mailto:george@georgetoft.com">george@georgetoft.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Credible - hmmm - all I have is the vendor's assertion the drives were new from Seagate. Times two vendors.<br>
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For you WD fans out there - I just had 4 WD Enterprise drives fail on me in the past month (out of 18 in two arrays). They were all dated Nov 2010 - that should give you an indication how long they last under 24x7x365 use in a data center.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
George Toft<br>
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On 10/17/2014 8:43 AM, <a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
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If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General would like to hear from you.<br>
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On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:<br>
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How many [thousand] hours on the drive? I think you're gambling if<br>
you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's<br>
really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from<br>
what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate<br>
drives - check the model number and the run hours!<br>
<br>
Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in<br>
rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see<br>
above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
George Toft<br>
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On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, <a href="mailto:parabellum7@yahoo.com" target="_blank">parabellum7@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br>
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Greetings!<br>
<br>
<br>
I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.<br>
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However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.<br>
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Some other SMART attributes displayed:<br>
<br>
ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757<br>
ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors<br>
ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors<br>
ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors<br>
ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0<br>
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GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also says it's OK.<br>
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running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.<br>
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I've also retested in another machine with different cables to minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the results remain the same.<br>
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Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.<br>
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Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems like a lot.<br>
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Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?<br>
<br>
Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or 'free' in the name? ;]<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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<br>
--Kenn<br>
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