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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It has been my experience that Seagate,
and ONLY Seagate drives eventually suffer from "Sticktion". BBS
runners from back in the day are WELL aware of this phenomenon.<br>
Further, PERSONALLY, I've had VERY bad luck with Seagate. They
didn't fail gracefully, with warning. Boot today, Tits Up
tomorrow.<br>
<br>
Unfortunately maybe, (I) just replaced MY primary data drive with
a high-end Hitachi 4 TB. I replace this drive every 4 Years MAX,
even if it appears to work fine.<br>
The Hitachi was purchased because I have them in a some laptops
and they have performed quite well.<br>
<br>
MY <u>favorite</u> <u>has</u> long been Maxtor but I'm SURE
someone will say they suck too. Them, and nearly every other
too. You know the saying: "Opinions are like.... Everyone has
one" The topic, is quite subjective. Like everything, the top
dog never remains static so for ME it may be time to re-evaluate
also. Look at HP printers and Brother. HP was top, NOW I think
Brother is WAYYY better.<br>
<br>
If anyone here on the list works in a data center. They would
know first person about drive deaths, but being a data center,
they'll more than likely use only enterprise class drives, which
as we all know are levels above the stuff in a typical home
system. Like everything, cars, blenders, etc, there are certain
models from each manufacturer that are garbage. <b>(I) would tend
to take advise from someone who uses NON-enterprise drives over
years </b><b><u>and</u></b><b> en-mass. </b><b> If anyone here
on the list qualifies, I TOO would like to hear what </b><b><u>you</u></b><b>
have to say since you are literally on the front-lines.</b><b><br>
</b><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/18/2014 07:30 AM, Keith Smith wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:5fc91926aaca874040a9cca4d6ef8da3@phpcoderusa.com"
type="cite">Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi. As I
recall, there was a discussion on this list about who was the best
and I think Hitachi took a lot of hits. I think Dell puts Seagate
drives in their boxes.
<br>
<br>
What manufacture makes the best today?
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Seagate has been cranking out such bad
drives lately, I think I would
<br>
rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate.
<br>
<br>
Brian Cluff
<br>
<br>
On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used
Hitachi
<br>
drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State
Attorney General
<br>
would like to hear from you.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">How many [thousand] hours on the
drive? I think you're gambling if
<br>
you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if
it's
<br>
really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently,
and from
<br>
what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new"
Seagate
<br>
drives - check the model number and the run hours!
<br>
<br>
Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80
hours in
<br>
rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi
drives (see
<br>
above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
<br>
George Toft
<br>
<br>
On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:parabellum7@yahoo.com">parabellum7@yahoo.com</a> wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Greetings!
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged
from a
<br>
decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The
latest
<br>
Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the
drive is A-OK
<br>
(short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors
found.
<br>
<br>
However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold
not
<br>
exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.
<br>
<br>
Some other SMART attributes displayed:
<br>
<br>
ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757
<br>
ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors
<br>
ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors
<br>
ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors
<br>
ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0
<br>
<br>
<br>
GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178
sectors, but also
<br>
says it's OK.
<br>
<br>
running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.
<br>
<br>
I've also retested in another machine with different
cables to
<br>
minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues,
but the
<br>
results remain the same.
<br>
<br>
Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should
be the final
<br>
say as they're designed to work correctly with their
drives.
<br>
<br>
Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have
drives that
<br>
have been running for years like that. I just keep backups
fresh and
<br>
check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within
spec and
<br>
that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178
sectors seems
<br>
like a lot.
<br>
<br>
Should I trust this drive for anything more than a
paperweight?
<br>
<br>
Should I trust anything with the words 'smart',
'affordable', or
<br>
'free' in the name? ;]
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks!
<br>
<br>
<br>
--Kenn
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