<div dir="ltr">thanks Mike.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>It creates two separate Virtual LAN
(VLAN) networks, using routing/nat to traverse between them. This
is what gives you security, hiding you on private addresses, but
making you visible to the network via Network Address Translation
(NAT).<br>
<br>
This is how firewalls/routers work, at least those little buggers.<br>
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Look up the terms vlan and nat for more info than you'd ever want
to know.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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-mb</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 10/17/2014 09:25 AM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I was trying to learn what the internet port is for
and read this on wikipedia:
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<div><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">The
original </span><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">WRT54G</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px"> was
first released in December 2002. It has a 4+1 port </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_switch" title="Network switch" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px;background-image:none;background-repeat:initial" target="_blank">network
switch</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px"> (the
Internet/WAN port is part of the same internal network
switch, but on a different </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLAN" title="VLAN" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px;background-image:none;background-repeat:initial" target="_blank">VLAN</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">).</span><br>
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<div>I don't understand . Could someone explain it to me?</div>
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<div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:15 AM,
Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thank you for the response,
Gilbert. I thought I answered every question asked....
how odd! In any case this is my setup:<br>
I have a DSL modem (a pk5000) which feeds the XBMC
computer about 3 feet to the left of it (which I am
using to write this). Then my brother moved in so I
put a connection in his room. To do this I ran a cable
to my office (down the hallway) (20 feet) through the
outside wall and under the mobile home and into his
room (20 more feet). Then I got my linux from scratch
computer (that didn't have a wireless card) and I had
to run another cable. However, because I didn't want
another cable running alongside the one I had already
installed I opted to put a spare router (configured to
be a switch) into my office then I have two cables
coming out of it one to the new computer and one to my
brothers room.....</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Fixed it! I had the cable from
the living room plugged into the internet port. I
plugged it into a LAN port and everything works again.
I'd swear I had it plugged into the internet port
before.<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Gilbert T.
Gutierrez, Jr. <<a href="mailto:mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net" target="_blank">mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at
11:56 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net" target="_blank">mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Mike,<br>
Just like HM said, you are going 1000mph in no
direction with a 1000 posts. With that being
said, all I know from this whole thread is
that you are having computer weirdness, you
think your router is broke, and this all
happened after you moved your computer.
Additionally, even though all this is
occurring, you still can post to this message
list so you have Internet on some device is
some form. When others have posted questions,
you have either moved your questions in a
different direction, partially answered them,
or not answered them at all. This cannot
continue if you wish someone to help you move
forward. People will go silent in response.<br>
<br>
Maybe some illustrations would help in
describing how your are connected and what is
working and not working. You need to go back
to basics (Use the OSI model to troubleshoot
moving from the Physical layer up to the
Application layer). Examples of questions to
ask yourself and put in your message could
include but is not be limited to...<br>
<br>
1. Describe the model of your router(s)
including tags so we know which router(s) you
are speaking of since I know you have at least
2 from everything you have said.<br>
2. What devices are plugged into which ports
of your router(s) including any interconnects?<br>
3. What are the status lights on your
router(s)/switch(es)/Network Card(s)?<br>
4. What IP address are you expecting?<br>
5. Are any devices working on your network?
Getting out to the Internet or getting an IP?
What port on what router are they plugged
into? Which router are they plugged into?<br>
6. If you isolate your computer and router
(nothing else plugged in, including the
modem), Do you get an IP address from the
router?<br>
7. Have you verified that the DHCP client
software is installed and running on the
network interface card of your computer?<br>
8. Do you have any known good computer that
you can test from, knowing that from previous
posts you thought it could be your computer?<br>
9. Does your Internet work if you plug
directly into the modem with your computer?<br>
10. Have you verified with your Internet
Service provider that your Internet is working
properly?<br>
<br>
Please do not just inline post a response. Put
some thought into it and respond with
something easy to read by someone without
experience with your network. I cannot help
you otherwise.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.</font></span>
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