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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It creates two separate Virtual LAN
      (VLAN) networks, using routing/nat to traverse between them. This
      is what gives you security, hiding you on private addresses, but
      making you visible to the network via Network Address Translation
      (NAT).<br>
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      This is how firewalls/routers work, at least those little buggers.<br>
      <br>
      Look up the terms vlan and nat for more info than you'd ever want
      to know.<br>
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      -mb<br>
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      On 10/17/2014 09:25 AM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I was trying to learn what the internet port is for
        and read this on wikipedia:
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        <div><span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">The
            original </span><b
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">WRT54G</b><span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px"> was
            first released in December 2002. It has a 4+1 port </span><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_switch"
            title="Network switch"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px;background-image:none;background-repeat:initial">network
            switch</a><span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px"> (the
            Internet/WAN port is part of the same internal network
            switch, but on a different </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLAN" title="VLAN"
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style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px;background-image:none;background-repeat:initial">VLAN</a><span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">).</span><br>
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        <div>I don't understand . Could someone explain it to me?</div>
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        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:15 AM,
          Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Thank you for the response,
                  Gilbert. I thought I answered every question asked....
                  how odd! In any case this is my setup:<br>
                  I have a DSL modem (a pk5000) which feeds the XBMC
                  computer about 3 feet to the left of it (which I am
                  using to write this). Then my brother moved in so I
                  put a connection in his room. To do this I ran a cable
                  to my office (down the hallway) (20 feet) through the
                  outside wall and  under the mobile home and into his
                  room (20 more feet). Then I got my linux from scratch
                  computer (that didn't have a wireless card) and I had
                  to run another cable. However, because I didn't want
                  another cable running alongside the one I had already 
                  installed I opted to put a spare router (configured to
                  be a switch) into my office then I have two cables
                  coming out of it one to the new computer and one to my
                  brothers room.....</div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Fixed it! I had the cable from
                  the living room plugged into the internet port. I
                  plugged it into a LAN port and everything works again.
                  I'd swear I had it plugged into the internet port
                  before.<br>
                  :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
                  On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Gilbert T.
                  Gutierrez, Jr. <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net"
                    target="_blank">mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at
                        11:56 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <span
                          dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net"
                            target="_blank">mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Mike,<br>
                          Just like HM said, you are going 1000mph in no
                          direction with a 1000 posts. With that being
                          said, all I know from this whole thread is
                          that you are having computer weirdness, you
                          think your router is broke, and this all
                          happened after you moved your computer.
                          Additionally, even though all this is
                          occurring, you still can post to this message
                          list so you have Internet on some device is
                          some form. When others have posted questions,
                          you have either moved your questions in a
                          different direction, partially answered them,
                          or not answered them at all. This cannot
                          continue if you wish someone to help you move
                          forward. People will go silent in response.<br>
                          <br>
                          Maybe some illustrations would help in
                          describing how your are connected and what is
                          working and not working. You need to go back
                          to basics (Use the OSI model to troubleshoot
                          moving from the Physical layer up to the
                          Application layer). Examples of questions to
                          ask yourself and put in your message could
                          include but is not be limited to...<br>
                          <br>
                          1. Describe the model of your router(s)
                          including tags so we know which router(s) you
                          are speaking of since I know you have at least
                          2 from everything you have said.<br>
                          2. What devices are plugged into which ports
                          of your router(s) including any interconnects?<br>
                          3. What are the status lights on your
                          router(s)/switch(es)/Network Card(s)?<br>
                          4. What IP address are you expecting?<br>
                          5. Are any devices working on your network?
                          Getting out to the Internet or getting an IP?
                          What port on what router are they plugged
                          into? Which router are they plugged into?<br>
                          6. If you isolate your computer and router
                          (nothing else plugged in, including the
                          modem), Do you get an IP address from the
                          router?<br>
                          7. Have you verified that the DHCP client
                          software is installed and running on the
                          network interface card of your computer?<br>
                          8. Do you have any known good computer that
                          you can test from, knowing that from previous
                          posts you thought it could be your computer?<br>
                          9. Does your Internet work if you plug
                          directly into the modem with your computer?<br>
                          10. Have you verified with your Internet
                          Service provider that your Internet is working
                          properly?<br>
                          <br>
                          Please do not just inline post a response. Put
                          some thought into it and respond with
                          something easy to read by someone without
                          experience with your network. I cannot help
                          you otherwise.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                              <br>
                              Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.</font></span>
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