<a href="http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2004-February/009575.html">http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2004-February/009575.html</a><div><br></div><div>Check out this thread on Debian from 10yrs ago.</div><div>
<br><div>On Friday, July 25, 2014, Kaoru Wilbur <<a href="mailto:m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com">m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">So, I am what some people have been calling "old School". I started out when Potato was released. That was about 15 years ago. I used it for porting, testing and in fact, used to do testing or unstable just to help me understand more and test stuff out. <div>
<br></div><div>Wow, a week of fallout is intense. <div><br></div><div>Personally, I like using the CLI. It saves time, resources, and such. Ubuntu has some nice features but I definitely am not drinking the Canonical Kool Aid.</div>
<div>What I really liked to do back in the day is port stuff to Debian because a lot of companies were doing it for RH and didn't care about Debian. Another thing I liked to do is test out hardware - this card, this module. </div>
<div><br>The truth is Debian is free software and that philosophy was one I agree with. I had a fully free machine when I attended college. I finished my degree with no proprietary software whatsoever for my undergrad. Also, everyone I knew was using Debian, Richard Stallman, Emmett Plant, Don Marti. Of course, these are the Masters and I, alas, just a Journeyer (well on Advogato, that is).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Debian is kick ass for learning how things work, getting things to work, but, does take time and devotion, right.</div><div>At least I can stand by a community effort and not some proprietary commercial entity.</div>
<div>I'm not saying Canonical hasn't done some good things. Sure. I just don't like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Hannah Montana Buntu... </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Also, I prefer Raspbian on my Banana Pi. No Ubuntu there. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">So, I know everyone has their own likes. </div><div class="gmail_extra">For example, I really did like Knoppix. It's a solid tool. Ubuntu would never let me know "why" something is throwing an error. It just throws it.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">What I think - Debian has been and always will be my friend ;)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Of course, you could ask 100 people and 100 different opinions may be had. I'm not saying mine is right at all. Debian is right for me. I try other distros. In fact, I'm going to try Arch on my banana out of curiosity. <br>
<br>I have tried Mint. MInt is nice. It all depends on what you want to do also.</div><div class="gmail_extra">I suppose as far as community is concerned, if you drink the Canonical Kool Aid, you can hang with that crowd.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">If you like Dead Rat, you can hang your hat, </div><div class="gmail_extra">If you like Debian... well, let's just say, it's a different portion of the community. :)</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Come into the light, Michael!!! :)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','michael@butash.net');" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Ahh, debian lurkers!<br>
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Just out of curiosity, not to hijack the thread, but don't find a lot of pure debian users... what train of debian are you and/or most people using for desktop, if not just servers? Curious what others are using if not the usual ubuntu flavors of deb, or raw debian even.<br>
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Ubuntu's become mostly a basketcase where I spend as much time removing, disabling, fixing, or hunting bugs in literally everything I do that I felt it's time to move on. I can't remember the last time I upgraded clean without spending a week with fallout. Wait, yes I can - about the time Unity replaced things, and they did away with debian installer. Whodathunkit.<br>
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Figure go to the source, but debian has been an adventure in itself. I used cinnamon debian mint on my laptop with a haswell chip, and the graphics are buggy with anything that attempts to use GL. Go figure, Intel is always a winner here.<br>
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I used Mate-based debian mint on my desktop, which is apparently an adventure with new hardware on a z97 chip, 2nd gen haswell, and my trusty ATI card which sadly I still cannot replace with an nvidia to drive my 6 displays. Couldn't upgrade to 3.15 with z97 patches (damn ati), settled on a 3.11, and tossed in a usb sound card for now until ati wakes up and updates the driver for 3.15 with alsa fixes.<br>
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I thought to go pure debian, but was hoping mint debian would prove a bit better. Admittedly, once working it's been fairly good, but lots of weird bugs/caveats too - just wondering what the consensus is around it.<br>
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-mb<br>
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On 07/25/2014 03:25 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:<br>
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Yeah, I think I have a SuSe disk from like 2001. I did make some money on that Novell stock when they bought SuSe. The road trip thing sounds interesting to me. I want to see what they have to say... I'm not expecting anything amazing, and I am Debian dedicated but am open to seeing what else is going on.<br>
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