<p dir="ltr">Turning off uefi will turn off secure boot also. But secure boot is your actual problem.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Kevin</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 19, 2014 10:26 AM, <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
And maybe it was some confusion on my part. I did have to turn off the UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2014-07-19 10:21, Kevin Fries wrote:<br>
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UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact, it probably helps the<br>
Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I<br>
have seen in a long time. <br>
<br>
UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror. Instead, it<br>
had 128 boot records and that number can be extended infinitely. <br>
The standard was also opened years ago... it was designed by Intel.<br>
<br>
Microsoft not one to have their illegal monopoly threatened, came up<br>
with another scheme to lock out open operating systems...<br>
security-related OS<br>
<a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system" target="_blank">http://en.m.wikipedia.org/<u></u>wiki/Security-evaluated_<u></u>operating_system</a><br>
[2]. In this scheme, the vendor would only allow these secured,<br>
certified operating systems to be installed. You had a choice<br>
initially of one... Windows, but you had only the choice of that one<br>
on the list.<br>
<br>
Just remember, you may recognize many names on that list, but they are<br>
all paid operating systems. Because the cost of this certification<br>
is expensive. That's why you find Enterprise Red Hat, but not<br>
Fedora.<br>
<br>
Well, the real joke is, most machines sold with Windows 8 have this<br>
Bios feature turned on, but there is an option in the Bios to turn it<br>
off. When you are no longer limiter to certified OSes, you can<br>
install whatever you like.<br>
<br>
Now if HE were only as worried about making their customers happy as<br>
they were making Microsoft happy, they would have told you that.<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
On Jul 18, 2014 10:42 PM, <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote:<br>
On Fri Jul 18 14, <a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote:<br>
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700,<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
>From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it<br>
will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Reason?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I think it has something to do with the bios. I have a 4.5 year<br>
old HP<br>
laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones<br>
will<br>
not.<br>
<br>
Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I do not recall. It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP<br>
laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux<br>
or HP told me so. I did not buy the laptop.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling<br>
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them I<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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