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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">What you can do is disable DHCP on the
      second router (The one not connected to your ISP). Then connect
      the LAN port of the second router to the LAN on the First router.
      It is important that you have the DHCP service disabled on the
      second router! Do not use the Internet/WAN port of the second
      router.<br>
      <br>
      Gilbert<br>
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      On 7/18/2014 2:51 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">is there a way turn NAT off in the second router?<br>
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        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:49 PM,
          Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">you are correct. that is what I've done and
              what is going on. I don't have a switch.... only the other
              router. I'm mad at myself..... I had a switch but got rid
              of it before I moved to FL. <br>
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                <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at
                      2:37 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <span
                        dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net"
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                      wrote:<br>
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                        solid;padding-left:1ex">What I think you are
                        doing is using NAT between your 2 networks.
                        Below is my approximation of your system patched
                        together from your comments...<br>
                        1. You have the router that is connected to your
                        ISP. It is performing NAT and handing out a
                        private network to anything on its LAN and WIFI
                        interfaces.<br>
                        2. You have a second router that has its
                        Internet/WAN interface connected to one of the
                        LAN interfaces on the first router. It is also
                        performing NAT and handing out a second private
                        network on its LAN and WIFI interfaces.<br>
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                        You WOULD be able to connect via SSH from a
                        device connected to the router listed in point 2
                        to a device connected to the router listed in
                        point 1. You WOULD NOT be able to connect from
                        the device connected to the router listed in
                        point 2 FROM a device connected to the router
                        listed in point 1 due to NAT.<br>
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                        There are ways to get beyond this and only have
                        one network utilizing 2 SOHO routers. I would
                        always recommend for anyone who has limited
                        network experience to only use one router and
                        use a combination of switches and access points
                        to extend wired LANs and provide better WIFI
                        coverage. If the setup is how I described, you
                        may have other issues due to DOUBLE NAT that you
                        just have not recognized yet.<span><font
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                            Gilbert</font></span>
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                          On 7/18/2014 12:30 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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                            telnet localhost 22 from the server received
                            no answer from the client<br>
                            telnet 192.168.1.101 22 from the client
                            received no answer from the server<br>
                            <br>
                            I'll get back to you about the research
                            project<br>
                             (and as a private message)<br>
                            <br>
                            :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
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