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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yeah, I can feel them cringing all the way over here! ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For many years I ran my email server at home over a 56k dialup dynamic IP link using a 486 box. Probably had less than 1M of ram! Notice EMAIL only </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>, though<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m working on turning an old Acer Revo box into a backup server at home. It has an Atom processor with a spot for a laptop hard drive inside as well as an eSATA connector. I’m going to install Linux on it, put my 3TB drive on the eSATA link, and have it back up the world at home. Might be slower than an i7, but it’s CHEAP and will run at night anyway. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yeah, cheap can still be useful </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>keith smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 14, 2014 9:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Main PLUG discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Looking for Advice on a New Server<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>If you are set on hosting out of your home or office you might consider a low end box for your web server.<br><br>I use an old HP single core AMD laptop with 3GB RAM as a LAMP dev box that has enough go that I think it would make a nice public facing LAMP web server. I've always thought a netbook might be enough power to run a LAMP server for a handful of low traffic websites. <br><br>I know some are cringing at what I said. I'm not talking production here. This is simply home office stuff.<br><br>And if your other server is strictly for file storage then you do not need much of a box there as well. I would think storage would be more important. I'm thinking and i3 with 2gb of ram with lots of storage. And the i3 might be over kill since it is for storage and will be running Linux.<br><br>I ran CentOS 5 something on an old 1g Celeron w/256mb ram a couple years ago. Just command line. I installed QmailToaster on it and it ran well as a test. <br><br>Based on my experience for what you are talking about you really do not need much resources, especially since you are going to be running Linux.<br><br>Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Monday, April 14, 2014 9:45 AM, Mark Phillips <<a href="mailto:mark@phillipsmarketing.biz">mark@phillipsmarketing.biz</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv8544489233><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I need a new machine to host a couple of low traffic web sites, act as a back up server for my home network, and provide a place to experiment with new stuff (ie have some fun). I am replacing two Dell Optiplex GX260s....486 and 2 GB of RAM each! Woo hoo!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I am looking at a refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020 - <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Processor: Intel Core 4th Generation i7-4770 Processor (8MB Cache, 3.40GHz)</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Windows 8 Pro</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>16GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600Mhz</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>16X DVD +/- RW Drive</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Intel Integrated Graphics</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#999999;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><span class=yiv8544489233><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dell Outlet Optiplex 9020 Mini Tower</span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>for about $700. It only has two internal drive bays, so that is not great. However, a PCI Express 4 port SATA board and some tie wraps will fix that problem.. Obviously, the Windows 8 would go away in exchange for debian testing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Any better ideas or suggestions? $700 is about the top of my budget. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>---------------------------------------------------<br>PLUG-discuss mailing list - <a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br><a href="http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>