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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hmm, I've not had to deal with Mint, as
      I still can't do the things I need to with it (install
      raid/encrption/lvm at install, but neither can ubuntu now...), so
      really don't know.<br>
      <br>
      Worst case, you can force the binary installer to run against the
      kernel itself, which breaks automagical kernel upgrade around
      dkms, but *should* work as I'd done that for years prior to the
      pkgbuild process.<br>
      <br>
      Just literally run "<br>
      sudo sh ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-12-x86.x86_64.run"
      without the buildpkg flags and let it try.  Might be a work-around
      until you can figure out a cleaner way to get a new driver on
      Mint.  I'm sure someone has figured it out, as at the end of the
      day I think it's still ubuntu kernels and packages beneath, you
      just need to figure out the $ubu-dist==$mint-dist mapping.<br>
      <br>
      Remove all the fglrx packages before you do this!<br>
      <br>
      -mb<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 12/27/2013 11:34 AM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAFRvun+cN2-jW5PHWD7j+7MXnRTYr=D1eMvs+ziaksZoMNSqXw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">well.... because I run a derivative of ubuntu I
        asked on the OSes support page and was told to run:<br>
        [code]<br>
        sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati<br>
        sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon<br>
        [/code]<br>
        But the response the computer gave was:<br>
        [code]<br>
        Unpacking fglrx (from ...fglrx?2%3a9.000-0ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...<br>
        /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh:32
        /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh:cannot create
        /etc/ati/fglrx-uninstall.log:Directory nonexistent.<br>
        <br>
        [Warning] Uninstall: inst_path_default or inst_path_override<br>
        does not exist on /etc/ati. This suggests that the AMD driver<br>
        is not installed, the AMD driver is only partially installed,<br>
        or the current AMD driver installed is an older version than the
        <br>
        one this script was designed for. Both files listed above are <br>
        required for determining where installed files are located.<br>
        to force unistallation of the driver by guessing where the<br>
        unistallation files are located, set the force option<br>
        re-run /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh (this is not
        recommended).<br>
        <br>
        dpkg: error processing
        /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx?2%3a9.000-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
        (--unpack):<br>
         subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit
        status 1<br>
        Errors encountered while processing:<br>
         /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx?2%3a9.000-0ubuntu3_i386.deb<br>
        E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)<br>
        [/code]<br>
        I do appologize for any typos in the code.... I had to type it
        in.<br>
        Any suggestions now?<br>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:24 PM,
          Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide"
                  target="_blank">http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide</a><br>
                <br>
                rtfm.  :)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    -mb</font></span>
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 12/26/2013 05:21 PM, Michael Butash wrote:<br>
                  </div>
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                <div class="h5">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div>sudo apt-get remove fglrx*<br>
                      <br>
                      How are you installing the driver, making the
                      deb's or forcing the lib install?  I'd recommend
                      the packages as that won't be catastrophic with
                      kernel updates.  Packages allow for dkms to
                      recompile the module for kernel upgrades.<br>
                      <br>
                      sudo sh
                      ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-12-x86.x86_64.run
                      --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise<br>
                      sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb<br>
                      <br>
                      Make sure to replace the distribution (precise)
                      with whatever you're on, and the filename.<br>
                      <br>
                      Other than that, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for
                      clues, but you're not installing the packages
                      clean.<br>
                      <br>
                      -mb<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      On 12/26/2013 05:10 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
                    </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>uh-ohhhhhh<br>
                        </div>
                        I installed 13.12 with the force option and it
                        installed. then the machine said it needed a
                        reboot. so I did and now X doesn't work. so this
                        is way deeper than I had hoped it would be but
                        it is too late to go back now! so I had read
                        that you need to reinstall X after an FGLRX
                        upgrade. I need to go to work now but if you
                        could tell me how to do this it would be great.
                        After we get done with this I am going to have a
                        bunch of instructional files. that is what I do
                        now.... I copy the instructuions into a file and
                        put that into a folder entitle 'computer
                        instructions so I don't have to bug anyone about
                        my little problems and so I can help someone
                        with the same problem.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at
                          4:32 PM, Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                            style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                            #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                            <div dir="ltr">figured out the installation
                              (sh <file>) but now it is telling me
                              to uninstall the previous installation of
                              fglrx (which I am doing with apt-get
                              remove). But to remove it it is installing
                              a package called :
                              <div> <br>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div>The following NEW packages will be
                                  installed:</div>
                                <div>  fglrx-amdcccle-updates
                                  fglrx-updates</div>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>SO should I continue with the
                                installation of 13.12 after the updates
                                are installed?</div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                              <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                              <div>
                                <div> <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec
                                    26, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Michael Havens
                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      style="margin:0 0 0
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                                      <div dir="ltr">okay....  is
                                        installed but they are up to
                                        version 13.12 . Time for an
                                        upgrade. I d/l the new driver
                                        butdon't know how to install it.
                                        The file is a .run file .
                                        './<file name> isn't
                                        working and the release notes
                                        don't give any indication.  So
                                        what do I do?</div>
                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br
                                          clear="all">
                                        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div> <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:02
                                              PM, Michael Butash <span
                                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
                                              wrote:<br>
                                              <blockquote
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                                                  text="#000000">
                                                  <div>mb@host:~$  sudo
                                                    dpkg -l fglrx<br>
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold<br>
                                                    |
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend<br>
                                                    |/
                                                    Err?=(none)/Reinst-required
                                                    (Status,Err:
                                                    uppercase=bad)<br>
                                                    ||/ Name          
                                                    Version     
                                                    Architecture
                                                    Description<br>
+++-==============-============-============-=================================<br>
                                                    ii  fglrx         
                                                    2:13.200-0ub
                                                    amd64        Video
                                                    driver for the AMD
                                                    graphics<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Compare that against
                                                    the active driver
                                                    sets from AMD's
                                                    site.<span><font
                                                        color="#888888"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        -mb</font></span>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        On 12/26/2013
                                                        03:56 PM,
                                                        Michael Havens
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite">
                                                        <div dir="ltr">Hey
                                                          Mike..... how
                                                          do I see what
                                                          the current
                                                          version of
                                                          fglrx is? I
                                                          tried locate
                                                          and I think it
                                                          is 9 or 10 as
                                                          there are a
                                                          coupke of
                                                          files.... one
                                                          is:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>/etc/X11/Xsession.d/10fglrx</div>
                                                          <div>and the
                                                          other</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>/usr/lib/pxpress/lib/10fglrx</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>or</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>/usr/src/fglrx-9.000</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>and then
                                                          a bunch of
                                                          files built
                                                          off of that
                                                          directory.</div>
                                                          <div>.... then
                                                          I just
                                                          noticed:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Thu, Dec 26,
                                                          2013 at 1:08
                                                          PM, Michael
                                                          Butash <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          #ccc
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                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000">
                                                          <div>Ok, I
                                                          think the
                                                          problem is
                                                          likely with
                                                          the format of
                                                          the video, it
                                                          doesn't sound
                                                          like they're
                                                          being hardware
                                                          decoded, as I
                                                          don't even see
                                                          a blip on the
                                                          cpu when the
                                                          gpu is doing
                                                          the decode. 
                                                          Basically you
                                                          don't have
                                                          enough
                                                          processing
                                                          that it's
                                                          dragging your
                                                          system down
                                                          with it.  If
                                                          VLC, Totem, or
                                                          whatever all
                                                          behave the
                                                          same, it's a
                                                          system
                                                          resource
                                                          issue.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I'd make sure
                                                          you upgrade
                                                          your drivers
                                                          from actual
                                                          AMD/ATI site,
                                                          as the ones in
                                                          repo tend to
                                                          be old, you
                                                          might just
                                                          have some
                                                          rendering
                                                          challenges. 
                                                          They've also
                                                          steadily added
                                                          codecs over
                                                          time for what
                                                          they can
                                                          decode, so it
                                                          might be
                                                          fixed.  Don't
                                                          install the
                                                          radeon driver,
                                                          just upgrade
                                                          the fglrx
                                                          proprietary
                                                          blob driver.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The other
                                                          option is
                                                          change your
                                                          recording
                                                          format to
                                                          something that
                                                          doesn't kill
                                                          your cpu.  You
                                                          can also
                                                          transcode or
                                                          reencode the
                                                          existing
                                                          videos.  I'd
                                                          recommend just
                                                          using straight
                                                          h.264 as it's
                                                          all but
                                                          standard and
                                                          supported by
                                                          most gpu's for
                                                          decode now. 
                                                          Plenty of info
                                                          and apps out
                                                          there to do
                                                          this, but not
                                                          my forte to
                                                          point you at
                                                          any one.  I
                                                          never make
                                                          videos, I just
                                                          download
                                                          straight h.264
                                                          or xvid videos
                                                          that give me
                                                          no grief.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          What format
                                                          *are* these
                                                          in?  Not just
                                                          the container
                                                          (ie. mkv), but
                                                          the actual
                                                          codec in use. 
                                                          VLC will tell
                                                          you if you
                                                          look under
                                                          Tool menu, and
                                                          Codec
                                                          Properties
                                                          when the file
                                                          is loaded.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Reply to all
                                                          for the list
                                                          too, might
                                                          help someone
                                                          else out here
                                                          without me
                                                          having readd
                                                          them back in
                                                          disjointed
                                                          thread
                                                          fashion.  :)<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -mb</font></span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 12/26/2013
                                                          12:13 PM,
                                                          Michael Havens
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>I'm not
                                                          sure if I need
                                                          to say this
                                                          but xbmc
                                                          videos play
                                                          with no
                                                          problem; the
                                                          problem is
                                                          with home
                                                          recorded
                                                          videos. If I
                                                          upload the
                                                          videos to you
                                                          tube they will
                                                          play fine. As
                                                          for the output
                                                          of: lsmod |
                                                          egrep
                                                          'fgl|rade'</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>   
                                                           fglrx        
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                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:4325524%20%C2%A0223" value="+14325524223" target="_blank">4325524



                                                           223</a> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> I do not
                                                          seem to have a
                                                          radeon driver.
                                                          I did
                                                          apt-cache
                                                          search to see
                                                          I could figure
                                                          out what to
                                                          install....
                                                          and out of the
                                                          list that
                                                          printed up of
                                                          interest (i
                                                          think) is: </div>
                                                          <div>   
                                                           fglrx-updates
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div>and<br>
                                                          <div>   
                                                           rovclock -
                                                          utility to
                                                          control
                                                          frequency
                                                          rates of your
                                                          Radeon card</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>htop just
                                                          showed vlc at
                                                          the top of the
                                                          list when I
                                                          started it
                                                          with cpu usage
                                                          between 10%
                                                          and 80%.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">I
                                                          also just
                                                          tried it with
                                                          totem (slow
                                                          video and no
                                                          sound) and
                                                          gnome-mplayer
                                                          (slow video,
                                                          normal sound
                                                          which rushes
                                                          ahead)<br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">$
                                                          apt-cache
                                                          search radeon<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">libdrm-radeon1


                                                          - Userspace
                                                          interface to
                                                          radeon-specific
                                                          kernel DRM
                                                          services --
                                                          runtime</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">libdrm-radeon1-dbg


                                                          - Userspace
                                                          interface to
                                                          radeon-specific
                                                          kernel DRM
                                                          services --
                                                          debugging
                                                          symbols</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">radeontool


                                                          - utility to
                                                          control ATI
                                                          Radeon
                                                          backlight
                                                          functions on
                                                          laptops</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-ati



                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI
                                                          display driver
                                                          wrapper</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg



                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI
                                                          display driver
                                                          wrapper
                                                          (debugging
                                                          symbols)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-radeon



                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI Radeon
                                                          display driver</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg



                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI Radeon
                                                          display driver
                                                          (debugging
                                                          symbols)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xvba-va-driver


                                                          - XvBA-based
                                                          backend for VA
                                                          API (AMD fglrx
implementation)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx


                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-amdcccle


                                                          - Catalyst
                                                          Control Center
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-amdcccle-updates



                                                          - Catalyst
                                                          Control Center
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-dev


                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators
                                                          (devel files)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          fglrx-updates
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-updates-dev


                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators
                                                          (devel files)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">mplayer2


                                                          - next
                                                          generation
                                                          movie player
                                                          for Unix-like
                                                          systems</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">rovclock


                                                          - utility to
                                                          control
                                                          frequency
                                                          rates of your
                                                          Radeon card</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">atitvout


                                                          - ATI TV Out
                                                          Support
                                                          Program</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">gatos


                                                          - ATI
                                                          All-in-Wonder
                                                          TV capture
                                                          software</div>
                                                          <br>
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