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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">sudo apt-get remove fglrx*<br>
      <br>
      How are you installing the driver, making the deb's or forcing the
      lib install?  I'd recommend the packages as that won't be
      catastrophic with kernel updates.  Packages allow for dkms to
      recompile the module for kernel upgrades.<br>
      <br>
      sudo sh ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-12-x86.x86_64.run
      --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise<br>
      sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb<br>
      <br>
      Make sure to replace the distribution (precise) with whatever
      you're on, and the filename.<br>
      <br>
      Other than that, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues, but you're
      not installing the packages clean.<br>
      <br>
      -mb<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 12/26/2013 05:10 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAFRvun+WX=6eU9AHxbszW+SBoUn_ENZvRog5_74HSJ8EqeeC2A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div>uh-ohhhhhh<br>
        </div>
        I installed 13.12 with the force option and it installed. then
        the machine said it needed a reboot. so I did and now X doesn't
        work. so this is way deeper than I had hoped it would be but it
        is too late to go back now! so I had read that you need to
        reinstall X after an FGLRX upgrade. I need to go to work now but
        if you could tell me how to do this it would be great. After we
        get done with this I am going to have a bunch of instructional
        files. that is what I do now.... I copy the instructuions into a
        file and put that into a folder entitle 'computer instructions
        so I don't have to bug anyone about my little problems and so I
        can help someone with the same problem.<br>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:32 PM,
          Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">figured out the installation (sh
              <file>) but now it is telling me to uninstall the
              previous installation of fglrx (which I am doing with
              apt-get remove). But to remove it it is installing a
              package called :
              <div>
                <br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>The following NEW packages will be installed:</div>
                <div>  fglrx-amdcccle-updates fglrx-updates</div>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>SO should I continue with the installation of 13.12
                after the updates are installed?</div>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
              <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:11
                    PM, Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">okay....  is installed but they are
                        up to version 13.12 . Time for an upgrade. I d/l
                        the new driver butdon't know how to install it.
                        The file is a .run file . './<file name>
                        isn't working and the release notes don't give
                        any indication.  So what do I do?</div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 26,
                              2013 at 4:02 PM, Michael Butash <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:michael@butash.net"
                                  target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                  <div>mb@host:~$  sudo dpkg -l fglrx<br>
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold<br>
                                    |
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend<br>
                                    |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required
                                    (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)<br>
                                    ||/ Name           Version     
                                    Architecture Description<br>
+++-==============-============-============-=================================<br>
                                    ii  fglrx          2:13.200-0ub
                                    amd64        Video driver for the
                                    AMD graphics<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Compare that against the active
                                    driver sets from AMD's site.<span><font
                                        color="#888888"><br>
                                        <br>
                                        -mb</font></span>
                                    <div>
                                      <div><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        On 12/26/2013 03:56 PM, Michael
                                        Havens wrote:<br>
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                                      <blockquote type="cite">
                                        <div dir="ltr">Hey Mike..... how
                                          do I see what the current
                                          version of fglrx is? I tried
                                          locate and I think it is 9 or
                                          10 as there are a coupke of
                                          files.... one is:
                                          <div>
                                            <div>/etc/X11/Xsession.d/10fglrx</div>
                                            <div>and the other</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>/usr/lib/pxpress/lib/10fglrx</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>or</div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>/usr/src/fglrx-9.000</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>and then a bunch of files
                                            built off of that directory.</div>
                                          <div>.... then I just noticed:</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br
                                            clear="all">
                                          <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 1:08
                                            PM, Michael Butash <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:michael@butash.net"
                                                target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0 0 0
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                                              solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                text="#000000">
                                                <div>Ok, I think the
                                                  problem is likely with
                                                  the format of the
                                                  video, it doesn't
                                                  sound like they're
                                                  being hardware
                                                  decoded, as I don't
                                                  even see a blip on the
                                                  cpu when the gpu is
                                                  doing the decode. 
                                                  Basically you don't
                                                  have enough processing
                                                  that it's dragging
                                                  your system down with
                                                  it.  If VLC, Totem, or
                                                  whatever all behave
                                                  the same, it's a
                                                  system resource issue.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  I'd make sure you
                                                  upgrade your drivers
                                                  from actual AMD/ATI
                                                  site, as the ones in
                                                  repo tend to be old,
                                                  you might just have
                                                  some rendering
                                                  challenges.  They've
                                                  also steadily added
                                                  codecs over time for
                                                  what they can decode,
                                                  so it might be fixed. 
                                                  Don't install the
                                                  radeon driver, just
                                                  upgrade the fglrx
                                                  proprietary blob
                                                  driver.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  The other option is
                                                  change your recording
                                                  format to something
                                                  that doesn't kill your
                                                  cpu.  You can also
                                                  transcode or reencode
                                                  the existing videos. 
                                                  I'd recommend just
                                                  using straight h.264
                                                  as it's all but
                                                  standard and supported
                                                  by most gpu's for
                                                  decode now.  Plenty of
                                                  info and apps out
                                                  there to do this, but
                                                  not my forte to point
                                                  you at any one.  I
                                                  never make videos, I
                                                  just download straight
                                                  h.264 or xvid videos
                                                  that give me no grief.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  What format *are*
                                                  these in?  Not just
                                                  the container (ie.
                                                  mkv), but the actual
                                                  codec in use.  VLC
                                                  will tell you if you
                                                  look under Tool menu,
                                                  and Codec Properties
                                                  when the file is
                                                  loaded.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Reply to all for the
                                                  list too, might help
                                                  someone else out here
                                                  without me having
                                                  readd them back in
                                                  disjointed thread
                                                  fashion.  :)<span><font
                                                      color="#888888"><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      -mb</font></span>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      On 12/26/2013
                                                      12:13 PM, Michael
                                                      Havens wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
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                                                      type="cite">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>I'm not
                                                          sure if I need
                                                          to say this
                                                          but xbmc
                                                          videos play
                                                          with no
                                                          problem; the
                                                          problem is
                                                          with home
                                                          recorded
                                                          videos. If I
                                                          upload the
                                                          videos to you
                                                          tube they will
                                                          play fine. As
                                                          for the output
                                                          of: lsmod |
                                                          egrep
                                                          'fgl|rade'</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>     fglrx
                                                                       
                                                           <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:4325524%20%C2%A0223" value="+14325524223" target="_blank">4325524

                                                           223</a> <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div> I do not
                                                          seem to have a
                                                          radeon driver.
                                                          I did
                                                          apt-cache
                                                          search to see
                                                          I could figure
                                                          out what to
                                                          install....
                                                          and out of the
                                                          list that
                                                          printed up of
                                                          interest (i
                                                          think) is: </div>
                                                        <div>   
                                                           fglrx-updates
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                        <div>and<br>
                                                          <div>   
                                                           rovclock -
                                                          utility to
                                                          control
                                                          frequency
                                                          rates of your
                                                          Radeon card</div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>htop just
                                                          showed vlc at
                                                          the top of the
                                                          list when I
                                                          started it
                                                          with cpu usage
                                                          between 10%
                                                          and 80%.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">I
                                                          also just
                                                          tried it with
                                                          totem (slow
                                                          video and no
                                                          sound) and
                                                          gnome-mplayer
                                                          (slow video,
                                                          normal sound
                                                          which rushes
                                                          ahead)<br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">$
                                                          apt-cache
                                                          search radeon<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">libdrm-radeon1
                                                          - Userspace
                                                          interface to
                                                          radeon-specific
                                                          kernel DRM
                                                          services --
                                                          runtime</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">libdrm-radeon1-dbg
                                                          - Userspace
                                                          interface to
                                                          radeon-specific
                                                          kernel DRM
                                                          services --
                                                          debugging
                                                          symbols</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">radeontool
                                                          - utility to
                                                          control ATI
                                                          Radeon
                                                          backlight
                                                          functions on
                                                          laptops</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-ati

                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI
                                                          display driver
                                                          wrapper</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg

                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI
                                                          display driver
                                                          wrapper
                                                          (debugging
                                                          symbols)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-radeon

                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI Radeon
                                                          display driver</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg

                                                          - X.Org X
                                                          server --
                                                          AMD/ATI Radeon
                                                          display driver
                                                          (debugging
                                                          symbols)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">xvba-va-driver
                                                          - XvBA-based
                                                          backend for VA
                                                          API (AMD fglrx
implementation)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-amdcccle
                                                          - Catalyst
                                                          Control Center
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-amdcccle-updates

                                                          - Catalyst
                                                          Control Center
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-dev
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators
                                                          (devel files)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          fglrx-updates
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">fglrx-updates-dev
                                                          - Video driver
                                                          for the AMD
                                                          graphics
                                                          accelerators
                                                          (devel files)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">mplayer2
                                                          - next
                                                          generation
                                                          movie player
                                                          for Unix-like
                                                          systems</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">rovclock
                                                          - utility to
                                                          control
                                                          frequency
                                                          rates of your
                                                          Radeon card</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">atitvout
                                                          - ATI TV Out
                                                          Support
                                                          Program</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">gatos
                                                          - ATI
                                                          All-in-Wonder
                                                          TV capture
                                                          software</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
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