<div dir="ltr"><div>Actually the installer works as well as always EXCEPT in the presence of UEFI and Secure Boot. They also seem to get in the way of installing from flash drive. But since flash drives are sometimes seen by BIOS/UEFI as USB Hard drives, USB CDs, USB ?devices, etc you now have to look further into Boot Order/Prioriy settings and sometimes they are disabled for booting.<br>
<br></div>I have also been fighting an issue similar to yours. It appears my problem is the computer I am working on came from Lenovo with BIOS/UEFI RAID0 turned on and I have found no way to get rid of it and still be able to reinstall the OEM installed Windows 8 for the woman. That is a problem since Ubuntu (and likely Linux in general) does not see the FAKE raid0 but rather two innaccessible drives. The only thing I got to work was to turn off the RAID, install Win8 from a real install disk and then install Ubuntu from a CD rather than a flash drive (unless the BIOS/UEFI excluded USB CD is how it sees my flash drive).<br>
<div><br>I know the alt CD was removed because its primary use was (upgrades) was taken over by the install CDs. Even running the Installfests, I have not missed the alt CDs.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I'm curious to see if it's as broken as
ubuntu seems to be these days - feedback from adopters here
appreciated. <br>
<br>
I spent 3 days last week trying to get ubuntu working with 13.10
on a fresh install, and since they're forcing use of a desktop cd,
and not producing alt installs now, found the install process to
be entirely broken. A new laptop with only EFI boot apparently
leaves me few options for distributions, namely excluding debian
which I was going to attempt to migrate to avoid ubuntu's steady
decline in quality/stability. Hopefully Valve heads this off
using the Ubuntu/Debian base. <br>
<br>
I spent the weekend attempting to abandon Ubuntu and learning Arch
(or trying to) after the ubuntu fail, which wasn't exactly easy,
and simply finding just about every step requires some extensive
research of packages, lack of automagical setup, and sadly most
any ease found in Ubuntu I've apparently taken for granted. Not
to mention I'm not finding pacman packages for most things I
need/want (doubt Steam is going to be supported on Arch anytime
soon). <br>
<br>
Maybe Valve injecting their two bits around Debian too will help
that, but I doubt it'll support more enterprise-y features like
raid, encryption, and lvm as part of the install features I need.
Then again, I wish Ubuntu would just put it back said features or
produce an alt cd again including them natively until someone
fixes their broken desktop installer.<br>
<br>
-mb<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 12/16/2013 08:40 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:<br>
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<div>I don't know how this hasn't made it to the list yet, but
Steam released their Debian based gaming OS. <br>
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Here is a link to download it<br>
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<a href="http://repo.steamstatic.com/download/" target="_blank">http://repo.steamstatic.com/download/</a><br>
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