<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Must be with the newer models or maybe a certain model.  I take you have not found the problem? <br><br>As I mentioned earlier I have been using a single core HP laptop with 2GB of RAM as a LAMP box for 2 years.  I switched to laptops to reduce the amount of heat in my home office.  Last couple summers have been cooler.<br><br>I'm thinking of 1, more powerful box running Linux and several virtual machines for my dev environment.  That way I do not need two boxes.  In my case two laptops.  <br><br>When I make this change I will probably put Linux on my newer HP Laptop.  At that point I will know if that is problematic.  <br><br>Thanks for the heads up!!<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>------------------------<br>Keith Smith</div><div
 style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:15 PM, Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6115953964"><div>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">I would be careful of the HP laptops if
      you're going to put linux on them.  You might remember from a few
      months ago the trouble I had with my HP desktop running linux.  It
      liked to lock up at random, sometimes within 20 minutes of booting
      up, sometimes it might last a day or two.  Recently my sister
      asked me to put linux on her HP laptop.  I did and it had the same
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    <div class="yiv6115953964moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen wrote:<br clear="none">
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        <div class="yiv6115953964gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, keith
          smith <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">Hi,</span></div>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I'm
                    seeing some decent pricing on laptops for tomorrow
                    night / Friday morning.</span></div>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I have
                    several HP's and find them to be decent laptops.  I
                    use Dell for my desktop computers and have really
                    enjoyed their products.  <br clear="none">
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                    at a Toshiba that is a decent build and has a really
                    good price.  I owned a Toshiba about 12 years ago
                    and was not very impressed.</span></div>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I hear
                    there is only 4 manufactures of laptop components,
                    so I am wondering if the company that does the
                    assembly and puts their name on the finish product
                    is all that important.</span></div>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">You
                    thoughts on this matter are very important to me.</span></div>
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                  <span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">Thanks!</span></div>
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