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    I don't want to buy a windows license because I'll never use it.  I
    think I'll skip the laptop and get a computer without an os or with
    Ubuntu.  Thanks everyone for your input.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/15/2013 09:05 PM, Stephen wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACS_G9zj9B8TUaH+DAAiS2npPZATZj8F4KAUCYuAQ6fq7HnsCg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p dir="ltr">They pay canonical because it comes with support I
        believe.</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 15, 2013 9:00 PM, "Joseph
        Sinclair" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:plug-discussion@stcaz.net">plug-discussion@stcaz.net</a>>
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          For desktops, there are systems available bare bones and/or
          complete without O/S on NewEgg, among other places.<br>
          Bare Bones (complete except you have to add RAM and Storage,
          sometimes CPU) usually work well, I've had good experience
          with the small Zotac mini desktop systems, there are others
          (e.g. Shuttle), however.<br>
          <br>
          Laptops are harder; I've only ever seen a very few without
          Windows installed, and aside from the couple of models Dell
          sells with Ubuntu pre-installed (BTW, those are the same price
          as the Windows laptops because Dell pays Canonical as much for
          Ubuntu as they pay MS for Windows), System76 and ZaReason are
          about the only places I've seen OEM linux laptops.<br>
          A lot of the "linux" laptops were purchased OEM (often Lenovo)
          with Windows installed, then reimaged (Red7 used to do this)
          with Linux.  That's not what you appear to be looking for.<br>
          <br>
          Links:<br>
          <br>
          [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/laptops?%7Eck=bt#%21facets=80770%7E0%7E1791343&p=1"
            target="_blank">http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/laptops?~ck=bt#!facets=80770~0~1791343&p=1</a><br>
          [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100019096&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=10%7C83-252-027%5E83-252-027-02%23%2C83-218-025%5E83-218-025-02%23%2C83-252-029%5E83-252-029-02%23%2C83-218-024%5E83-218-024-01%23&percm=83-252-027%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-025%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-252-029%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-024%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24"
            target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100019096&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=10%7C83-252-027%5E83-252-027-02%23%2C83-218-025%5E83-218-025-02%23%2C83-252-029%5E83-252-029-02%23%2C83-218-024%5E83-218-024-01%23&percm=83-252-027%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-025%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-252-029%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-024%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24</a><br>
          [3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=32%7C34-314-115%5E9B34-314-115-01%23%2C34-231-067%5E34-231-067-TS"
            target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=32%7C34-314-115%5E9B34-314-115-01%23%2C34-231-067%5E34-231-067-TS</a><br>
          [4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://us.shuttle.com/Models.aspx" target="_blank">http://us.shuttle.com/Models.aspx</a><br>
          [5] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.zotacusa.com/"
            target="_blank">http://www.zotacusa.com/</a><br>
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          On 08/14/2013 08:32 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:<br>
          > Is there anyone who sells computers without an operating
          system?  Sooner or later I'll buy another one and I don't want
          to pay for a Windows license I'll never use. Also is there
          anyone selling computers with linux installed?  If so which
          distro?  If all else fails, I'll just buy the parts and build
          one.  However that might prove difficult if I wanted a laptop.<br>
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