what more do you want?<br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM, keith smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" target="_blank">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">I've used a spreadsheet in the past and that is a great solution. I'm looking for a little more.<br><br>Thanks!! <br><div><span><br>
</span></div><div> </div><div>------------------------<br>Keith Smith</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> George Toft <<a href="mailto:george@georgetoft.com" target="_blank">george@georgetoft.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Main PLUG discussion list <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:22 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
Simple Small Busines Accounting App<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br>
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<div>Based on my experience, gnuCash is fine
- probably more than you need. I do about as much business
(checks/payments) as you and use an OpenOffice spreadsheet. I
used gnuCash with my consulting company, but when it collapsed in
a series of lawsuits, I had to pay an accountant $1200 to manually
transfer all the gnuCash entries to QuickBooks for the previous
four years ($300/year). It would have been much less expensive to
use QuickBooks in the first place. Assuming you have no business
partners and will never need to have your accounting records
reviewed by an accountant or lawyers, OpenOffice should work
fine. Simply put each item from Schedule C as column headers,
include date, description and mileage, and as you enter the
expenses/receipts put them in the right column and come tax time
it will take you about 5 minutes to fill out Schedule C as a
copy&paste exercise.<br>
<br>
For example:<br>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0">
<colgroup><col width="86"><col width="374"><col width="47"><col width="69"><col width="61"><col width="59"><col width="61"><col width="51"><col width="63"><col width="44"><col width="70"><col width="53"><col width="57"><col width="56"><col width="60"><col width="48"><col width="61"><col width="80"><col width="80"><col width="68"><col width="48"><col width="50"><col width="66"><col width="60"><col width="63"><col width="56"><col width="64"></colgroup>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td height="24" align="CENTER" width="86"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT" width="374"><font size="4">2011 <font size="4">Blah Blah Bu<font size="4">siness</font></font><br>
</font></td>
<td style="border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF" width="47">Mileage</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF" width="69">$0.51</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF" width="61">$0.56</td>
<td align="LEFT" width="59"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT" width="61"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT" width="51"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT" width="63"><br>
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<td align="LEFT" width="44"><br>
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<td align="LEFT" width="48"><br>
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<td align="LEFT" width="68"><br>
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</tr>
<tr>
<td height="17" align="CENTER"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT"><br>
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<td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF"><br>
</td>
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<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#008000">Income</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#008000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#008000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#008000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FFFF00">Cost of Goods Sold</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FFFF00"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FFFF00"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000">Expenses</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
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<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
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<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
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<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
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<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
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</td>
<td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-right:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#FF0000"><br>
</td>
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<td style="border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF"><br>
</td>
<td align="LEFT">Income – Products <br>
Sold Wholesale</td>
<td align="LEFT">Income – <br>
Services</td>
<td align="LEFT">Income – <br>
Interest</td>
<td align="LEFT">Income – Products <br>
Sold Retail</td>
<td align="LEFT">Cost of Labor</td>
<td align="LEFT">Materials and <br>
Supplies</td>
<td align="LEFT">Other Costs</td>
<td align="LEFT">Advertising</td>
<td align="LEFT">Car and <br>
Truck Expenses</td>
<td align="LEFT">Commissions <br>
And Fees</td>
<td align="LEFT">Contract Labor</td>
<td align="LEFT">Insurance</td>
<td align="LEFT">Interest – other</td>
<td align="LEFT">Legal and <br>
Professional Services</td>
<td align="LEFT">Communication</td>
<td align="LEFT">Office Expenses</td>
<td align="LEFT">Rent/Lease – <br>
Machinery</td>
<td align="LEFT">Rent/Lease – <br>
Other</td>
<td align="LEFT">Repairs and <br>
Maintenance</td>
<td align="LEFT">Supplies – <br>
Other</td>
<td align="LEFT">Taxes and <br>
Licenses</td>
<td align="LEFT">Travel, meals, <br>
And entertainment</td>
<td align="LEFT">Utilities</td>
<td style="border-right:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT">Other Expenses</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="17" align="CENTER"><br>
</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="LEFT">Totals</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF">970</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
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<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
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<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
<td style="border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-right:1px solid #000000" align="RIGHT">$0.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="34" align="CENTER">Date</td>
<td align="LEFT">Description</td>
<td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#E6E6FF"><br>
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</table>
<br>
Except for 2003-2007, I've been using a spreadsheet for the last
25 years.<br>
<br>
It's better than a shoebox and you don't have to learn
double-entry accounting to use it.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
<br>
George<br>
<br>
On 8/9/2013 4:58 PM, sean ritzler wrote:<br>
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<pre>I have not used it myself, but I've heard good things about GnuCash.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, keith smith <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><klsmith2020@yahoo.com></a> wrote:
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<pre>Hi,
I am looking for a very simple accounting system.
I receive 2 or 3 payments a month and I might write 4 or 5 checks a month.
I was using quickbooks home and business, however they want me to renew it
every 3 ears or some of the features are turned off.
I use M$ 7 for my work station, however that is subject to change so a M$ /
Linux app would be nice.
Any ideas. I'm looking for simple. Also If I can import the data from my
bank that would be a big plus.
Thanks!!
Keith
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