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    <font face="Comic Sans MS">I can't see why you would have any
      problems as long as there's only one partition on the device and
      it's fat32 or ntfs.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2013 01:54 PM, Michael Havens
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAFRvunK7W9gh3KeBNruBRjS3v4xApCeyr0FdLByNrkCOsJEZUQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I was just about to create a partition on the device
      when a thought occurred to me: If I add a partition to this drive
      will that make any windows machine I were to add this to not want
      to access it?<br clear="all">
      <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Dazed_75
        <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:lthielster@gmail.com" target="_blank">lthielster@gmail.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Whether you do it in a terminal or with a GUI,
            this article is a wealth of information about this:<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-format-usb-drive-in-the-terminal/"
              target="_blank">http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-format-usb-drive-in-the-terminal/</a><br>
            <br>
            <br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:25
                  AM, Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">why
                    does it matter? it is only 2 gig.
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                      <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
                      <div>
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                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013
                            at 10:34 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
                                target="_blank">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              If I was you, I'd make a partition.<br>
                              Scary...<br>
                              ET <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Michael Havens writes: <br>
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                                     sudo mkfs -t vfat -I /dev/sdc did
                                    it. Thanks Enrique! Now I get the
                                    nice<br>
                                    file manager appearing and
                                    everything.... How cool. I had to
                                    use -I because<br>
                                    there are no partitions on the
                                    drive. <br>
                                    :-)~MIKE~(-: <br>
                                    <br>
                                    On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM,
                                    Michael Havens <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>>
                                    wrote: <br>
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                                      it appears that msdos and vfat
                                      just point to each other (man
                                      mkfs.vfat is<br>
                                      the man for mkfs.msdos). Is this
                                      correct? So then it doesn't matter
                                      if I do<br>
                                      "-t vfat" or "-t msdos". What
                                      about "xtfs"?<br>
                                      :-)~MIKE~(-: <br>
                                      <br>
                                      On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:25 AM,
                                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
                                        target="_blank">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>>
                                      wrote: <br>
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                                        RTFM!   ;-)<br>
                                        ET <br>
                                        Michael Havens writes: <br>
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                                           So what is the option, "-t
                                          vfat" or "-t msdos"? I thought
                                          "xfs" was an<br>
                                          option.<br>
                                          Oh yea..... I don't "plan" on
                                          using this in windows but just
                                          in case I<br>
                                          need<br>
                                          to pull a file off of my dad's
                                          computer.<br>
                                          :-)~MIKE~(-: <br>
                                          On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:02
                                          AM, <<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
                                            target="_blank">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>>
                                          wrote: <br>
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                                            kitepilot@twinbeech[~]$ man
                                            mkfs|grep fat<br>
                                                  fs(5), badblocks(8),
                                            fsck(8), mkdosfs(8),
                                            mke2fs(8), mkfs.bfs(8),<br>
                                            mkfs.ext2(8), mkfs.ext3(8),
                                            mkfs.ext4(8), mkfs.minix(8),
                                            mkfs.msdos(8),<br>
                                            mkfs.vfat(8), mkfs.xfs(8),
                                            mkfs.xiafs(8)<br>
                                            kitepilot@twinbeech[~]$ man
                                            8 mkfs.vfat <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Michael Havens writes: <br>
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                                              what is the option in
                                              mkfs? I looked at man but
                                              they don't list it. Is<br>
                                              it<br>
                                              '-t fat32'?<br>
                                              :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
                                              On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at
                                              8:52 AM, <<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
                                                target="_blank">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>>
                                              wrote: <br>
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                                                THen you are good...  
                                                :)<br>
                                                Create a partition and
                                                install a FAT-32
                                                filesystem if you plan
                                                on<br>
                                                pluging<br>
                                                that thing to Wincrap.<br>
                                                ET<br>
                                                Michael Havens writes: <br>
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                                                  dmesg says the drive
                                                  is sdc. I can then
                                                  mount the drive and
                                                  look at<br>
                                                  it's<br>
                                                  contents.<br>
                                                  now for your
                                                  directions:<br>
                                                  bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$
                                                  lsusb >
                                                  /tmp/junk-lsusb-0.txt<br>
                                                  bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$
                                                  cat /proc/partitions
                                                  ><br>
/tmp/junk-partitions-0.txt<br>
                                                  bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$
                                                  lsusb >
                                                  /tmp/junk-lsusb-1.txt<br>
                                                  bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$
                                                  cat /proc/partitions
                                                  ><br>
/tmp/junk-partitions-1.txt<br>
                                                  bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$
                                                  diff
                                                  /tmp/junk-lsusb-?.txt<br>
                                                  0a1 <br>
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                                                    Bus 001 Device 005:
                                                    ID 0930:6544 Toshiba
                                                    Corp. Kingston
                                                    DataTraveler<br>
                                                    2.0 <br>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                  Stick (2GB)<br>
                                                  All is good.<br>
                                                  I can tell you right
                                                  now that there are no
                                                  partitions on this
                                                  drive.<br>
                                                  It<br>
                                                  is<br>
                                                  dev/sdc. I kinow this
                                                  is the case because I
                                                  can mount /dev/sdc<br>
                                                  /mnt/sdc<br>
                                                  and<br>
                                                  look at the contents.
                                                  There is nothing in it
                                                  that I want to keep.<br>
                                                  :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
                                                  On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at
                                                  8:12 AM, <<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com" target="_blank">kitepilot@kitepilot.com</a>>
                                                  wrote: <br>
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                                                    First question to
                                                    answer is: Is the
                                                    drive being
                                                    detected?<br>
                                                    Unplug the drive,
                                                    wait a minute and
                                                    do:<br>
                                                    lsusb >
                                                    /tmp/junk-lsusb-0.txt<br>
                                                    cat /proc/partitions
                                                    >
                                                    /tmp/junk-partitions-0.txt<br>
                                                    Now plug the drive,
                                                    wait a minute and
                                                    do:<br>
                                                    lsusb >
                                                    /tmp/junk-lsusb-1.txt<br>
                                                    cat /proc/partitions
                                                    >
                                                    /tmp/junk-partitions-1.txt<br>
                                                    Then<br>
                                                    diff
                                                    /tmp/junk-lsusb-?.txt<br>
                                                    If you see at leas
                                                    one line you are
                                                    good, otherwise you
                                                    are dead in<br>
                                                    the<br>
                                                    water.<br>
                                                    If you can see the
                                                    device, then:<br>
                                                    diff
                                                    /tmp/junk-partitions-?.txt<br>
                                                    That's your
                                                    partition.<br>
                                                    Depending on what
                                                    you have (if you
                                                    have) next steps are
                                                    different.<br>
                                                    YMMV...<br>
                                                    ET<br>
                                                    Michael Havens
                                                    writes: <br>
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                                                      Okay, when I was
                                                      making a backup
                                                      drive I did so on
                                                      a drive that was<br>
                                                      too<br>
                                                      small. (bummer)
                                                      now, when I stick
                                                      that device in
                                                      nothing happens<br>
                                                      (the<br>
                                                      nice<br>
                                                      little file
                                                      manager doesn't
                                                      appear). So I
                                                      think that is
                                                      because I<br>
                                                      created<br>
                                                      a<br>
                                                      label for this
                                                      drive. So I wonder
                                                      to myself how to
                                                      fix it. What I<br>
                                                      think<br>
                                                      of<br>
                                                      is mkfs. What is a
                                                      generic filesystem
                                                      I can use on
                                                      microsoft<br>
                                                      computers<br>
                                                      too?<br>
                                                      is xtfs the best
                                                      or should I go
                                                      with fat 16/32? or
                                                      am I incorrect<br>
                                                      that<br>
                                                      this<br>
                                                      will fix the
                                                      problem?<br>
                                                      :-)~MIKE~(-: <br>
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