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    <font face="Comic Sans MS">You go to the bank and get the drive out
      of the safe deposit box.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/10/2013 11:51 AM, keith smith
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        What happens if you are burglarized and the burglar takes all
        your hardwaere to include you backup drives?  What then?<br>
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          Keith Smith<br>
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                    style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> eric oyen
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                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Main
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                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:08 AM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: replacement computer - Yarnell<br>
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                <div>Dunno if they do or not. However, making on-site
                  backups (and duplicating them) is less time consuming
                  and definitely cheaper by far). 
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                  <div>What I like about Linux is that you can image an
                    entire drive and then use rsynch to update that
                    image. Also, external drives in the 1+ TB range are
                    bloody cheap and they are also quite portable. I use
                    3 here (one for time machine on my mac and the other
                    2 to hold backup images of my windows laptop and my
                    Linux laptop as well). </div>
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                  <div>Using an online service dies have its pluses, but
                    it also has some big negatives. The first of these
                    is bandwidth. Depending on how fast your connection
                    is (and the level of service you purchased) it could
                    take 3 to 10 days just to do the initial backup.
                    Thats a lot of time spent sitting there just backing
                    up a drive (its cheaper to get 3 3TB drives at
                    Wal*mart). Also, with these online data lockers, is
                    your data really safe (even with encryption)? Given
                    what has been in the news lately, I am not so sure
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                  <div>-eric</div>
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                      <div>On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Derek Trotter
                        wrote:</div>
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                        <div> <font face="Comic Sans MS">Here's
                            something that just occurred to me.  I used
                            to know a guy in Wickenburg who was
                            responsible for the backups where he
                            worked.  He told me that once a week when he
                            came to work, he would take the last set of
                            backups to the bank where he put them in the
                            firm's safe deposit box.  He would bring the
                            tapes that were in the box back to the
                            office where they would be used for the next
                            backup.<br>
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                            I checked with my local bank and found a box
                            big enough to accept a hard drive would cost
                            $24 a year.  I don't recall whether or not
                            Yarnell has a bank.  If it doesn't, a trip
                            to Wickenburg wouldn't take too long.  If
                            your home were to be threatened by fire,
                            your data would be safe.  Of course be sure
                            to encrypt anything you put on that drive.<br>
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                            If you can afford three drives, put a copy
                            of the backup on two, then take one to the
                            bank.  The next time you do a backup, make
                            sure it's on both drives at home and take
                            one to the bank and leave it there.  Also
                            bring home the one that was there.  This way
                            you always have a copy of the most recent
                            backup at home.<br>
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                            You can always sign up for one of those
                            online backup services if one will support
                            linux, but you may need several days to do
                            the first backup.  After that, they only
                            back up what has changed.<br>
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                            Does anyone know if any of those online
                            backup servies that advertize on the radio
                            will work with linux?<br>
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                            Thanks<br>
                            Derek<br>
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                            07/09/2013 12:23 PM, Betty I wrote:<br>
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                                    <div>Thanks for the input, I knew
                                      the list would be helpful and
                                      thoughtful.<br>
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                                    So I am revising my chromebook
                                    desire since the coverage up there
                                    is pretty spotty to say the least.<br>
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                                  I am thinking I'll get at least one
                                  desktop, and one laptop. but may get a
                                  second laptop or the cool looking
                                  zo-tac with xbmc.<br>
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                                Thanks der.hans and Joseph; Michael,
                                Carl, Matt, Stephen et al. for the
                                thoughtful answers. <br>
                                I can put this one on the back burner
                                now for a few months til something is up
                                there to live in.<br>
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